What made everybody move from a corporate social media platform to another corporate social media platform instead of the fediverse?

After all, the Fediverse and Activitypub is much more mature than Bluesky and the copycat AT protocol or Threads and … whatever they use.

  • noodle (he/him)@lemm.ee
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    1. marketing
    2. not having to pick the instance when registering
    3. people who have experienced Mastodon’s hermetic culture discouraging others from joining
    4. algorithms helping discover people and content to follow
    5. marketing

    and I’m saying that as a firm Mastodon user and believer.

    • br3d@lemmy.world
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      2 and 3 are massive. I’m on Mastodon, but am having a much better time on Bluesky. Mastodon is full of gatekeeping and policing and people complaining - Bluesky is just fun and interesting, like Twitter 12 years ago

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        Who are these people who actually FIND users go follow on either service???

        I have Bluesky. I have Mastodon. I log into each every few months, realize nothing has changed, and there is nobody to follow.

        Then I don’t use either, until I wonder a few months later “heeeey, I wonder if people are on these services yet…”

        Still no.

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          Mastodon revolves around following topics and hashtags, not individuals. I learned that early on, and am having a much better experience.

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            Well then it will never be useful for me. I want to follow PEOPLE. I want people to follow me for the random shit I say.

            Then they retweet the random shit, and now a whole NEW group of people can wonder what’s wrong with me.

            • jollyroberts@jolly-piefed.jomandoa.net
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              I follow hashtags I like, then see who the people are who use those tags, then follow those people.

              I find that I discover people that way I would not have found otherwise.

              It’s worked well for me so far. I wasn’t a twitter person before though, so I don’t know if I have the experience you did for comparison.

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                See, I already know who I want to follow. I want to follow Nintendo. I want to follow Game Grumps. I want to follow my local pro wrestling indy. I want to follow MXRPlays.

                But none of them are on the fediverse. Although, Andy Richter is on BlueSky. So that’s something…I guess…

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                I’m going to copy/paste my last comment. You tell me what hashtag I’m supposed to use.

                ABYSS LOVES CHICKEN WINGS!!!

                CLAP-CLAP-CLAPCLAPCLAP

        • Glasgow@lemmy.ml
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          Use lists on bsky to find people.

          And just gained a million people, biggest spike yet. So should be a bit more active.

    • ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip
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      If Mastodon wins out in the long run the only reason will be persistence.

      All these other “like Twitter but ______” micro blogging or whatever sites only stay viable while they’re profitable.

      If Bluesky or Threads become (net) unprofitable, they’ll die. Mastodon is already unprofitable, so that can’t kill it.

      I think we could compete with #1 just by word of mouth.

      For #2 some person or group needs to develop a Mastodon app (FOSS obviously) that has a “just do this part for me” option, probably automatically enabled.

      #3 is on us. We have to do what we can to make Mastodon (and Lemmy) more open and accepting without falling pretty to the paradox of tolerance.

      #4 is hard… Although I think if Mastodon follows or tries to replicate the “early” Facebook user experience where most or all of the content people got was from people they follow, that could be better. The only challenge is that algorithms tickle our anger/hate/disgust impulses to drive and maintain engagement. That’s some very strong “lizard brain” stuff.

      So… let’s get going y’all! :)