Technically, Chuck voted to keep the government shut down. According to some people other than Chuck he was in constant contact with the group who crossed the aisle for nothing in return, but he didn’t vote with them.
Yeah, the consensus seems to be that Chuck essentially engineered this new “deal” but he knew it would be wildly unpopular so he had only the senators who aren’t up for election next year vote yes, while he voted no to keep his hands clean. Classic slimy bullshit from a classic slimy bullshitter.
Call your (blue) senators. Doesn’t matter if they voted for or against it. Explain that you aren’t fooled and that it was blatantly obvious that schumer had his whip get the yes votes on behalf of the republicans.
This battle is lost. But this is far from the first time a schumer led Democratic party did trump’s work for him. schumer and durbin don’t need to step down as Senators (but they really fucking should) but they DO need to step down as minority leader and whip in favor of someone who isn’t a complete and utter failure, at best.
Otherwise? You’ll assume that your senator(s) were some of the real yeses who caved.
He offered the first shit sandwich by floating the idea of only a one year extension instead of permanent and these 8 doubled down. That was after he rolled over this past spring.
The one year extension was a genuinely good strategy. It is a very reasonable way to discuss this when there is more time and people aren’t starving… that would have put us exactly back where we were on Tuesday for the “real” midterms.
A one month extension… would have let the democrats go home for thanksgiving, I guess? But would also be immediately abandoned because it’s xmas!
But this was getting absolutely nothing. johnson is already saying he won’t call a vote for the ACA.
The one year strategy was fucking terrible. They already had the Republicans owning their own goal and offered to let them win for a single year’s reprieve. It was caving in right after massive election wins showing that the public was blaming the right people for once.
This is worse, but that was terrible and opened the doors for completely undermining the entire reason for the shutdown.
I’ve been following how the senate has voted on shit from the beginning of Trump’s second presidency. What I’m finding is that they all take turns crossing the aisle to spread out the hate they would get from their own party for doing so. Schumer, and Gillibrand, who are senators for my state both voted to confirm his cabinet picks. I’ve been pissed with them since day one.
That just means he found enough Dem Senators to take the heat so he didn’t have to also vote for it. It’s not like he said “Hold the line” and those 8 defied him. No, it was all agreed to between him and them. This is what he wanted. As minority leader the blame is on him in spite of his ‘no’ vote.
Technically, Chuck voted to keep the government shut down. According to some people other than Chuck he was in constant contact with the group who crossed the aisle for nothing in return, but he didn’t vote with them.
Yeah, the consensus seems to be that Chuck essentially engineered this new “deal” but he knew it would be wildly unpopular so he had only the senators who aren’t up for election next year vote yes, while he voted no to keep his hands clean. Classic slimy bullshit from a classic slimy bullshitter.
Exactly.
Call your (blue) senators. Doesn’t matter if they voted for or against it. Explain that you aren’t fooled and that it was blatantly obvious that schumer had his whip get the yes votes on behalf of the republicans.
This battle is lost. But this is far from the first time a schumer led Democratic party did trump’s work for him. schumer and durbin don’t need to step down as Senators (but they really fucking should) but they DO need to step down as minority leader and whip in favor of someone who isn’t a complete and utter failure, at best.
Otherwise? You’ll assume that your senator(s) were some of the real yeses who caved.
He offered the first shit sandwich by floating the idea of only a one year extension instead of permanent and these 8 doubled down. That was after he rolled over this past spring.
He shares a lot of the blame.
Not just that; he’s the fucking minority leader. It’s his job to coerce Democrats to vote in a unified manner.
Well, no — it’s his job to lead them in a unified vision. It’s then the whip’s job to coerce them. And Durbin, who capitulated this time, is the whip.
So Schumer is directly responsible for Durbin, and the two of them together are responsible for all the rolling over.
Convince, not coerce. But otherwise spot on.
Either would have been fine.
The one year extension was a genuinely good strategy. It is a very reasonable way to discuss this when there is more time and people aren’t starving… that would have put us exactly back where we were on Tuesday for the “real” midterms.
A one month extension… would have let the democrats go home for thanksgiving, I guess? But would also be immediately abandoned because it’s xmas!
But this was getting absolutely nothing. johnson is already saying he won’t call a vote for the ACA.
The one year strategy was fucking terrible. They already had the Republicans owning their own goal and offered to let them win for a single year’s reprieve. It was caving in right after massive election wins showing that the public was blaming the right people for once.
This is worse, but that was terrible and opened the doors for completely undermining the entire reason for the shutdown.
I’ve been following how the senate has voted on shit from the beginning of Trump’s second presidency. What I’m finding is that they all take turns crossing the aisle to spread out the hate they would get from their own party for doing so. Schumer, and Gillibrand, who are senators for my state both voted to confirm his cabinet picks. I’ve been pissed with them since day one.
That just means he found enough Dem Senators to take the heat so he didn’t have to also vote for it. It’s not like he said “Hold the line” and those 8 defied him. No, it was all agreed to between him and them. This is what he wanted. As minority leader the blame is on him in spite of his ‘no’ vote.