I love how the only option in his mind is to not vote in the future. Not trying to find the party that represents him, or vote for the other party that protects his views, but just give up entirely on democracy cause of one issue.
He is a weak person, a weak american, and is one of the problems with this country.
They aren’t completely equivalent, though it’s pretty close, sadly.
I agree that it’s better for someone to get involved with a third party, but if that third party’s electoral strategy is to simply try and receive more votes, then they’re actively hurting under the US’ terrible voting system. (This is under the assumption that this third party is less right wing that the Democrats, and that you don’t want the Republicans to win).
Any third party that is actively campaigning on getting preferential voting across the line by influencing the Democrats from the outside (yeah, first part the post is that terrible that this is necessary), or is revolutionary in nature, is okay in my books.
The rest are doing active harm because of the spoiler effect.
“Blue no matter who” is really, really dumb, and people really ought to get involved with groups within and without the Democrats to vigorously push for electoral reform, and better yet the abolition of capitalism and implementation of actual democracy (the US can barely be considered a democracy).
Parties that just are campaigning on: ‘Hey! Vote for us because we’re better’ with no actual strategy of changing the system are dumb, also.
It’s the unironic goal of a two party system. I’ve got beef with right wing “libertarians” but they’re the closest current thing to a viable third party and they don’t even enter this chud’s thoughts.
Oh, buddy, I got you beat. I used to be a libertarian in my early thirties. I’m in my mid forties now and I’m dumb as a bag of rocks. As dumb as I am now I’ve experienced an insane amount of learning and growth to lead me away from libertarianism.
I love how the only option in his mind is to not vote in the future. Not trying to find the party that represents him, or vote for the other party that protects his views, but just give up entirely on democracy cause of one issue.
He is a weak person, a weak american, and is one of the problems with this country.
In fairness. First past the post necessarily leads to a two party state.
I’m sorry, but the only option is to single-mindedly campaign for pretentitial voting.
Voting for another party that protects his views is cute, but totally incompatible with the voting system in place in the US.
*Disclaimer that I feel entitled to comment on US politics as a citizen of the provinces (Australia)
what, precisely, is the downside of voting for a third party rather than not voting at all?
They aren’t completely equivalent, though it’s pretty close, sadly.
I agree that it’s better for someone to get involved with a third party, but if that third party’s electoral strategy is to simply try and receive more votes, then they’re actively hurting under the US’ terrible voting system. (This is under the assumption that this third party is less right wing that the Democrats, and that you don’t want the Republicans to win).
Any third party that is actively campaigning on getting preferential voting across the line by influencing the Democrats from the outside (yeah, first part the post is that terrible that this is necessary), or is revolutionary in nature, is okay in my books.
The rest are doing active harm because of the spoiler effect.
“Blue no matter who” is really, really dumb, and people really ought to get involved with groups within and without the Democrats to vigorously push for electoral reform, and better yet the abolition of capitalism and implementation of actual democracy (the US can barely be considered a democracy).
Parties that just are campaigning on: ‘Hey! Vote for us because we’re better’ with no actual strategy of changing the system are dumb, also.
It’s the unironic goal of a two party system. I’ve got beef with right wing “libertarians” but they’re the closest current thing to a viable third party and they don’t even enter this chud’s thoughts.
God that’s so sad. Have you ever spoken to a Libertarian? They’re right wing, but somehow even dumber.
Oh, buddy, I got you beat. I used to be a libertarian in my early thirties. I’m in my mid forties now and I’m dumb as a bag of rocks. As dumb as I am now I’ve experienced an insane amount of learning and growth to lead me away from libertarianism.
Well, leftists and our infamous inability to organize without infighting is biting us in that regard.