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Toyota Unintended Acceleration and the Big Bowl of "Spaghetti" Code(2013)

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Toyota Unintended Acceleration and the Big Bowl of "Spaghetti" Code(2013)

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Toyota Unintended Acceleration and the Big Bowl of “Spaghetti” Code - Safety Research & Strategies, Inc.
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Last month, Toyota hastily settled an Unintended Acceleration lawsuit – hours after an Oklahoma jury determined that the automaker acted with “reckless disregard,” and delivered a $3 million verdict to the plaintiffs – but before the jury could determine punitive damages. What did the jury hear that constituted such a gross neglect of Toyota’s due care obligations? The testimony of two plaintiff’s experts in software design and the design process gives some eye-popping clues. After reviewing Toyota’s software engineering process and the source code for the 2005 Toyota Camry, both concluded that the system was defective and dangerous, riddled with bugs and gaps in its failsafes that led to the root cause of the crash.

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  • toynbee@lemmy.world
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    I think I would prefer the floormat that got stuck under the pedals. At least then you could theoretically do something about it (even if practically you probably didn’t have time).

  • tangeli@piefed.social
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    There should be legislation to make it illegal for a car manufacturer to release software that has not had both its development process and the software itself independently audited with with an acceptable outcome.

  • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk
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    Toyota had more than 10,000 global variables.

    Did you need 10000 reasons to never enter a Toyota again? No? Well, now you’ve got them, whether you wanted them or not.

    • velindora@lemmy.cafe
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      6 hours ago

      I’d rather have that than a Tesla which could cause the entire car to not respond because of JavaScript.

      • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk
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        That’s a little like saying that you’d rather be shot in the head than burned alive. Sure, I won’t argue against it, but I’ve got a better suggestion: How about neither?

        • velindora@lemmy.cafe
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          Why not both?

        • markko@lemmy.world
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          Tesla is number 1 for deaths AND accidents. Toyota is not in the top 5 for either.

          https://www.iseecars.com/most-dangerous-cars-study#v=2024

          https://smartfinancial.com/car-brands-with-most-accidents

          • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk
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            Sure, and how does that excuse Toyota’s sloppy coding practices? Look buddy, if you want to drive in one of their vehicles, I’m not going to stop you.

            • velindora@lemmy.cafe
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              What vehicle do you drive?

              • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk
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                I don’t.

                • velindora@lemmy.cafe
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                  Oh I see, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Got it.

  • Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
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    7 hours ago

    The code may be crap, but there simply does not exist a car that can overpower its brakes. None.

  • velindora@lemmy.cafe
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    Only $3mil for a death

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