Its satirizing the tendency for doctors to be more dismissive of women having pain than men, for example. This would be more of a problem with non-visible causes of pain, especially ones that predominantly effect women such as chronic migraines. This comic takes extrapolates this to comedic effect by using a gunshot wound instead.
Not really - if a woman came in with a gunshot wound, she’d be asked if she was pregnant. Why? Because she’d need a CT scan or an X-ray, which are ionizing radiation and have a risk for a foetus. She’d need a scan or x-ray to ensure there was no shrapnel in the would before closure even if superficial, and to assess for damage to vessels or bone etc if deep wound.
It’s a standard question that any women would recognise from trips to the emergency room. It’s pretty ineffective as a punchline if the cartoonist is trying to make the point you say they’re making.
Instead it just makes the woman in the cartoon appear dumb/ignorant which totally undermines the message it’s purportedly trying to put across. She is giving a fed up or even patronising look over something that would be essential question in any hospital.
Not really - if a woman came in with a gunshot wound, she’d be asked if she was pregnant. Why? Because she’d need a CT scan or an X-ray, which are ionizing radiation and have a risk for a foetus.
Pretty sure immediate blood loss from a bullet wound trumps hypothetical risks of an x-ray.
Edit: To quote the health department of the state next to me…
Most radiation exposure during medical testing is unlikely to harm a developing baby. Testing is only done if the risk to you or your baby is greater than not doing the test. The ‘risk’ is the increased chance of your unborn baby getting a cancer during their childhood.
I love how a 4 panel comic about dismissal of women’s medical concerns is getting multiple commentors who want to dismiss those problems because a 4 panel comic doesn’t explicitly go into the a specific nuance they are focused on. Plenty of people get the punchline just fine without it.
I imagine they’d want to give her something for the pain, and potential pregnancy might be a factor? I don’t know, I’m not a doctor, and this is a comic.
But pain meds would be different if you’re pregnant or not.
I think a lot of people are taking benign questions as straight insults to them.
Yes do women experience this? Yes. Do men, yes. Is it a valid question for every women that comes across… also yes.
I guess the period question takes it from what you’re saying, and takes it to a different punch line, and what’s that punch line? I get what you are saying, but comic also clearly has a shift to a different point.
Sure, there are valid medical reasons. This comic isn’t about that. It’s about the outright dismissal of women’s problems. It’s not about changing treatment based on pregnancy status despite the mention of pregnancy - it’s about the ignoring the problem exists at all to be fixed.
The comic isn’t showing an outright dismissal, though. The doctor hasn’t arrived at a conclusion just by asking a question that seems unrelated.
Doctors do that kind of digging all the time. It’s not worth it to explain all the interactions and interconnectedness just to get some basic questions answered, so doctors will often just ask weird questions out of the blue.
Of course they do. Still not the point of the comic and plenty of people immediately understood the point. There doesn’t need to be another 4 panels to explain what they’d be.
I think they’re trying to say it doesn’t fully satirize the issue. The doctor isn’t necesarily dismissing anything just by asking the question. They’re saying the joke is malformed, not that the issue cannot exist.
Its satirizing the tendency for doctors to be more dismissive of women having pain than men, for example. This would be more of a problem with non-visible causes of pain, especially ones that predominantly effect women such as chronic migraines. This comic takes extrapolates this to comedic effect by using a gunshot wound instead.
Not really - if a woman came in with a gunshot wound, she’d be asked if she was pregnant. Why? Because she’d need a CT scan or an X-ray, which are ionizing radiation and have a risk for a foetus. She’d need a scan or x-ray to ensure there was no shrapnel in the would before closure even if superficial, and to assess for damage to vessels or bone etc if deep wound.
It’s a standard question that any women would recognise from trips to the emergency room. It’s pretty ineffective as a punchline if the cartoonist is trying to make the point you say they’re making.
Instead it just makes the woman in the cartoon appear dumb/ignorant which totally undermines the message it’s purportedly trying to put across. She is giving a fed up or even patronising look over something that would be essential question in any hospital.
Pretty sure immediate blood loss from a bullet wound trumps hypothetical risks of an x-ray.
Edit: To quote the health department of the state next to me…
I love how a 4 panel comic about dismissal of women’s medical concerns is getting multiple commentors who want to dismiss those problems because a 4 panel comic doesn’t explicitly go into the a specific nuance they are focused on. Plenty of people get the punchline just fine without it.
Nobody is dismissing the problem. They’re saying the comic doesn’t represent the problem. It’s malformed commentary, not wrong commentary.
I don’t even think it’s intended to be about that. I don’t think it’s that deep.
I think it’s just, “they always ask this question, no matter what.”
I thought bandaging the wound would be the first step, stop the bleeding and all that. Not sure how pregnancy would figure into first aid.
I imagine they’d want to give her something for the pain, and potential pregnancy might be a factor? I don’t know, I’m not a doctor, and this is a comic.
For example, give a pregnant woman Tylenol and boom, autistic baby.
But seriously, as far as I know, your comment is accurate, a lot of treatment options change when a fetus might be in the situation.
If a doctor decided to neglect that possibility and harms a fetus no one was aware of, might get hit with malpractice.
Also I know lab results might depend on either the possibility of pregnancy, or just timing of the period itself.
There is stuff we know fucks with the baby, like thalidomide. No need to throw dubious claims of autism into the mix.
That part was intended as a joke, hence the ‘but seriously’
Sad to say, such nuanced takes don’t belong on lemmy. That shit is like a lemmy repellant.
But pain meds would be different if you’re pregnant or not.
I think a lot of people are taking benign questions as straight insults to them.
Yes do women experience this? Yes. Do men, yes. Is it a valid question for every women that comes across… also yes.
I guess the period question takes it from what you’re saying, and takes it to a different punch line, and what’s that punch line? I get what you are saying, but comic also clearly has a shift to a different point.
Sure, there are valid medical reasons. This comic isn’t about that. It’s about the outright dismissal of women’s problems. It’s not about changing treatment based on pregnancy status despite the mention of pregnancy - it’s about the ignoring the problem exists at all to be fixed.
The comic isn’t showing an outright dismissal, though. The doctor hasn’t arrived at a conclusion just by asking a question that seems unrelated.
Doctors do that kind of digging all the time. It’s not worth it to explain all the interactions and interconnectedness just to get some basic questions answered, so doctors will often just ask weird questions out of the blue.
Of course they do. Still not the point of the comic and plenty of people immediately understood the point. There doesn’t need to be another 4 panels to explain what they’d be.
Is it, though?
And its method of depicting that is showing a doctor asking a valid and important question.
It’s crazy you’re atill trying to dismiss the issue
I think they’re trying to say it doesn’t fully satirize the issue. The doctor isn’t necesarily dismissing anything just by asking the question. They’re saying the joke is malformed, not that the issue cannot exist.
The issue of being a good doctor?