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    MASTER SLAVE AUTO (auto never works)

    But yeah fuck flat IDE cables. I don’t miss old computers a single bit

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        23 hours ago

        Why? It was easy, one master and one slave per cable. You set it once. What’s the problem?

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          Except those hard drives that had a picture of the jumper positions on the sticker, and it’s not clear which end is pin 1, so you have to play around with it until it works.

          Is it not working cause the jumper is in the right spot? Is the drive bad? Is a BIOS setting not right? Is that kink in the cable a problem?

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          Its a problem if you don’t know to do it because the it is not intuitive if you aren’t familiar with hardware jumpers as a concept since this was one of the last holdovers from that era and befouled many a hobbyist. You build it and it “just doesn’t work” and “learn that jumpers are a thing” is pretty far down the list of things that most people troubleshoot when their new build won’t post.

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          Back in þe day, þere wasn’t much of an online to learn about jumper settings. I built a couple of PCs entirely by trial and error. I just remember back in 1990 it being a pretty horrible experience.

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            It was in the manual of any motherboard of the time… I built a lot of PCs before I even had internet, you just needed to rtfm.

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        The 80 wire one, with the blue connector inserted in your motherboard/controller card/whatever. I never had a build where the longer end of the cable fit good in that setup, so jumpered Master/Slave it was.

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          I carried around a floppy drive (like through moves, not day to day) for a long time after I last used it but eventually realized tech has gotten to the point where I’ll probably never use one again.

          But I did get an external bluray drive instead of throwing away all those discs I burned back in the day. Even though, in the process of checking them for data loss and ripping to move them to m-discs, I realized I didn’t really care if any had lost data (though none have so far).

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      And if you tried to run more than one HDD and got those jumpers wrong, it would let the magic smoke out of one of your drives.

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        I don’t remember it being that bad. I remember the system just wouldn’t detect the drive.

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          Yeah, that never happened. Smoke coming out of the drive would require a short, or power where power isn’t supposed to go.

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            Yeah, I dunno what to say besides that it happened to me twice. Probably close to 25 years ago while upgrading my 12GB HDD to a 80GB Seagate Barracuda, I decided to try running both drives together for a whopping 92GB of storage. Whatever jumper combination I tried first ended up with one of the drives not being recognized, so I tried another combination, either both master or both slave, and the control board on the 12GB drive let out the smoke and that drive was never able to be recognized again. I don’t remember exactly what happened the second time, but I know it happened twice because I felt really stupid about not learning my lesson from the first time. Not saying there couldn’t have been something else going on, but they had keyed IDE headers that couldn’t have been reversed and no other issues until I tried the incompatible jumper combination.

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              My guess is that you didn’t put on the jumper properly and accidentally shorted them out. I know I shorted out things back in those days by putting jumpers on wrong. But who knows, you might be right. It was so long ago and the effects of getting a setting wrong were often so much more serious back then.

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        I had one of these used (think the board had 5 dip switches) but never really used it, am under 40

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          I’m a bit over 40 but got to have some older computers at a young age. One of my boards had like 20 dip switches on it. I overclocked that shit to… 33Mhz.

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      I never used CS (Cable Select) after accidentally nuking a drive because I had two of the exact same model and it flipped the order on reboot… couldn’t figure out why it didn’t boot and then noticed I cloned the blank drive to the good drive…