Saw some posts about .ml today and thought I’d jump on the bandwagon lol

  • Devconsole@sh.itjust.works
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    18 hours ago

    As a relative newcomer, I’ve felt and read a lot of hostility on Lemmy. Reddit felt smug, but not unfriendly.

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      14 hours ago

      Have you been to any of the history subreddits or the incel ones or the right wing ones? Or just r/all?

      Lol. Reddit is super hateful right now.

      One reason I like lemmy is because people are a lot more friendly here.

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        39 minutes ago

        I never used /all. I had a specific set of subreddits I used to browse. I never went to the incel or right wing subreddits. I used to browse AskHistorians occasionally.

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      15 hours ago

      Block early and often is practically the motto of Lemmy. Many people got banned from Reddit for a reason, and then they all came here. People with a conscience also came here too, but there’s definitely a lot of noise amidst the signal.

      And moderation tools here suck, so it’s much less regulated overall, which is somewhat a good thing but then people don’t want to discuss the bad side where people straight-up leave here as a result, as evidenced by e.g. the Monthly Active User counts in decline and also comments in spaces such as r/RedditAlternatives.

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        14 hours ago

        I think people leave because of the lack of niche communities.

        Reddit niche communities are like crack. None of the fandom communities are active here.

        Does piefed have good moderation tools?

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          8 hours ago

          I think people leave because of the lack of niche communities.

          That is also true:-). What they say for themselves is (1) tankies, (2) toxicity, (3) too confusing (this must be Lemmy bc PieFed’s sign up wizard is outstanding), and (4) yeah, lack of content.

          I haven’t moderated a community on PieFed, but in addition to what Skavau said, PieFed has many tools that alleviate the need for moderation in the first place, like keyword filtering (you wouldn’t need to make a community rule to reduce the amount of Musk or Trump content when users can filter that out on their own without needing a mod to do it for them) and user icons (next to e.g. highly contentious users with >10-fold more downvotes than upvotes, so you better know what you are getting into if you choose to respond).

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          13 hours ago

          From an instance admins perspective, yes.

          Otherwise it’s about on-par at a community moderation level. It has a few other things but they don’t present as viewed from Lemmy, mitigating their utility at the moment.

      • Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        12 hours ago

        I’ve gotten suspended from Reddit for hurting fascist’s feelings, most recently because I said what I wished had happened to the leaders of the confederacy.

        Reddit will let blatant hate speech and active calls for violence against minorities stand as “not violating any rules” and the only reason any of the subreddits aren’t overran by that crap is the individual subreddit mods remove comments and ban people, but that only goes so far as they are all unpaid volunteers.

        The kind of people that do get banned by Reddit for being bigots have to say stuff that would actually get them in legal trouble, and usually those are the ones that are actively threatening specific people all the time because they think death threats are an effective debate tactic when they don’t know what they are talking about, and they never know what they are talking about.

        Those people end up being a special kind of asshole so when they come to Lemmy they end up doing the same, but with federation they tend to endup more on the openly fascist instances that most sane instances don’t federate with.

      • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        10 hours ago

        I received a “promoting violence violation” on reddit for referencing “Surviving The Game” and other tropes of where rich, white, affluent assholes hunt human for sport.

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      13 hours ago

      It wasn’t always like this. I feel like it’s really been in the last 3ish months. Hopefully it’ll pass.

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        8 hours ago

        Usually there’s an uptick of violent bOtH sIdEs SaMe-style rhetoric just prior to an election in some Western nation. I’m not sure if that is what is happening now or something else.

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      16 hours ago

      Not sure when you last visited, but reddit’s hostility is almost worse than twitter these days lol

      Saw someone get dogpiled with neonazi aryan rhetoric from several users for saying they “prefer curly hair”, it’s like its own MAGA cult now.

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        12 hours ago

        Also, Reddit admins regularly suspend/ban anyone marginally on the left when we say we will defend ourselves or when we express opinions about certain dead fascists or in my most recent suspension: Said the confederate leaders should have gotten the same treatment they gave to runaway slaves.

        Reddit only bans fascists/conservatives when they do something that could get them in legal trouble. But anyone on the left, and especially anyone queer, even slightly arguing we might need to defend ourselves from their violence with our own will get banned extremely quick.

        Remember: Reddit didn’t take down subreddits dedicated to perving on children until it got in the news.

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        14 hours ago

        Might be general tribal attitude.

        I was banned from reddit for calling out colonial apologia and saying fuck you nazi. They literally banned all my accounts without review. I wasn’t even trying to circumvent the ban with the others.