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    17 hours ago

    Proton CEO Andy Yen is a libertarian tech bro who supports Trump. Tech bros are a societal cancer, willing to kill the many to benefit the few.

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    18 hours ago

    ■■■ Proton ■■■■■■■ donated gave praise ■■■■ to ■■■■ Trump.

    I use the whole suite and pay for it ever year because theyre the best competitor to Google, but Proton isn’t one of the “good” ones and I wouldn’t trust them to contest a subpoena or install a backdoor, either

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      A great Medium article on the topic that analyzes the entire situation: (coming to the conclusion that no, Proton does not really seem to be in favor of Trump/MAGA at all given their actual actions, and how the original statement was misinterpreted)

      https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

      Comment reposted from https://piefed.social/comment/8747739

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      18 hours ago

      ■■■ Proton ■■■■■■■ donated ■■■■ to ■■■■ Trump.

      Did they? I know one of their CEOs was pro-Trump, but the organization as a whole spoke out against having any political affiliation. Do you have a source for their donation to Trump?

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        18 hours ago

        If one or more of the guys making the most money at proton is pro-trump and makes donations, isn’t that the same thing as the company doing it? Like if Willy Wonka funded rainforest restoration, buying his chocolate is directly supporting the rainforest regardless of if it’s the factory or the CEO doing it.

        In an age where corporations and the rich are literally destroying the world, I think it’s reasonable for people to greatly weigh the political byproduct of their purchases. Proton doesn’t seem to care about privacy or improving the world or being a good company, they seemingly just care about making enough money through catering to the privacy crowd. For me, going non-google isn’t to hurt Google it’s to support smaller owned businesses who also want to support smaller owned businesses and their community.

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        18 hours ago

        Seems like youre right, I must’ve got my headlines mixed up. Can’t find anything saying they donated but their CEO coming out immediately with praise is an awful thing regardless, IMO

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      18 hours ago

      The privacy community will absolutely turn themselves inside out if you even mention this

      They deserve exactly what they get

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        IME there are two wings to the “internet privacy” philosophy. On one side is strictly against advertising and other forms of privacy invasion that I’d call Private Intrusion, basically "I don’t want the highest corpo bidder reading my email contacts and knowing which coworker I wished happy birthday to. On the other side is the anti-Governmemt surveillance mindset, Government Intrusion. Pretty much what it sounds like.

        Some people only care about one end. Most people have a stake in both, to one degree or another. IMO, I feel like more people care about corporate surveillance than government. Couple different ideas why, maybe some people still believe in a benevolent government, countering corps feels more feasible, and/or most people don’t feel like they have anything to hide, legally, but don’t love the advertisers’ mind games and want their wallet/freedom of choice respected.

        Turned into a bit of a rant here and got a little off topic. All that’s to say, though, that I wouldn’t immediately fault someone who says they’re “Privacy-Minded” but still uses Proton dispite their Trump endorsement, it’s just a different set of priorities.

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    16 hours ago

    I opted for FastMail over Proton because fuck Protonmail’s CEO. With FastMail, I’m blissfully ignorant of their politics. (ruin it for me if needed.)