Haley Robson, a survivor of Jeffrey Epstein's abuse, voted for President Donald Trump in the past but is now calling for him to be impeached over the handling of the Epstein files.
I just can’t imagine how she Justified supporting him to herself at any point. His involvement with Epstein is not new information. We’ve known for years and years.
He’s admitted on television to sneaking into locker rooms at beauty pageants, and talked about his own daughter like his trophy girlfriend. How those don’t trigger anything for her is astounding.
Not just that but the “grab them by the pussy” dude will bring justice to rape victims? That’s a serious moment to repose and question your judgement skills.
I’m starting to believe the average conservative is just that stupid. They can’t connect the dots on their own and they can’t tell the truth from lies. If you tell them A -> B and B -> C they won’t come to A -> C. You have to explicitly show them A -> C for them to see that. And that works only if there’s nobody else (like Trump) telling them A can’t lead to C.
I can imagine her justifying supporting Trump because Trump said he had nothing to do with the kids stuff. We’ve known for years but for her all it takes is Trump saying he didn’t do it and in her eyes we’re wrong.
“Conservative”. Self identifying conservatives need lean into the question “conserve what?” harder.
Methinks many succumb to mistaking politicians mean the same as their best hopes of conserving community standards against degeneracy, rather than conserving the corrupt establishment.
Its like racism, you see someone who looks unlike you do something, you want to justify them not being like you or not human so you cant relate what they did to yourself
“Conserving the corrupt establishment” is the only thing “conservative” has ever meant. Any claims to the contrary have only ever been lies intended to delude their marks and useful idiots.
This still seems to fall foul of the orwellian contortion and conflation and inversion of language, subtly doing the very thing overtly advising shouldn’t be done. Can’t get there from here. [Edit: from where they’re capitulated to and held at the head of the hierarchy of who gets to define words.]
It’s not quite as simple as stupidity. I think it’s poor critical thinking, plus a strong resistance to questioning their own beliefs. Combined, those things do appear to be stupidity, but there’s a difference.
I don’t exactly know, but I’ve met conservatives who are highly skilled in their own complex fields of expertise. They can’t possibly be stupid and still be good at their jobs.
I think dismissing people as “stupid” just helps build barriers. We need to understand why conservatives do what they do. Why do they consistently vote against their own interests? Why are compassion and empathy seen as weaknesses?
Bob Altmeier makes the argument that it’s not that they can’t think, it’s that they were taught not to. It helps reduce conflict when the people above you get things wrong.
We need to understand why conservatives do what they do.
They are stupid. They don’t have to be stupid about everything to be stupid about their voting choices. They vote conservative/Republican/whatever against their own interests for a wide variety of reasons from it being the one their parents voted for all the way to dumb shit like ‘owning the libs’ because it makes them feel like they are on a team with people as stupid as they are. If they weren’t stupid they would notice the fat fucking orange turd who can’t string words into a coherent sentence is the face of the party tearing down every positive thing the country does.
They are stupid in lots of different ways. Can’t fix stupid. We need to motivate the unengaged voters by having the party farther to the left actually stand up and accomplish things in a way they get credit for.
All of the dots were connected for them. All the way from hunters laptop to trans woke Marxist grooming of kids rampant throughout our pretty independently run education systems, Biden’s letting millions of criminals into the country to rape and murder our families and inflation that came from… Uhh well they just said it was Democrats fault.
When every mother father sister brother friend coworker and aquantience is getting fed lies 24 hours a day intentionally made to make you hate specific groups of people, “They’re raping the dogs!” It gets to the point you don’t have to believe everything is true, you just know you can’t ever vote for Democrat.
People start to believe things and eat up the lies on accident. A good example is Nancy Pelosi. She has some shit policies and views, but anyone who has ever stated she was involved in insider trading has been a MAGA supporter. Every one. There have never been any evidence that she was involved in insider trading, and people have looked for near 2 decades now, but guess what, people who don’t like the way our capitalistic system works, are prone to want to hate or dislike rich people, so they want to believe it’s true, and they do. And they spread that misinformation far and wide helping support MAGA. Most didn’t do it intentionally, but that’s the end result, building support to mistrust and hate anyone left of MAGA. So when the option was MAGA or anyone left of MAGA, a good chunk of people said… well I guess MAGA isn’t that bad.
I just can’t imagine how she Justified supporting him to herself at any point. His involvement with Epstein is not new information. We’ve known for years and years.
He’s admitted on television to sneaking into locker rooms at beauty pageants, and talked about his own daughter like his trophy girlfriend. How those don’t trigger anything for her is astounding.
Not just that but the “grab them by the pussy” dude will bring justice to rape victims? That’s a serious moment to repose and question your judgement skills.
Old men who lust after teen girls are not looking for intelligent conversation.
Just votes from women, particularly white women, seems to work.
https://truthout.org/articles/yes-55-percent-of-white-women-voted-for-trump-no-im-not-surprised/
I’m starting to believe the average conservative is just that stupid. They can’t connect the dots on their own and they can’t tell the truth from lies. If you tell them A -> B and B -> C they won’t come to A -> C. You have to explicitly show them A -> C for them to see that. And that works only if there’s nobody else (like Trump) telling them A can’t lead to C.
I can imagine her justifying supporting Trump because Trump said he had nothing to do with the kids stuff. We’ve known for years but for her all it takes is Trump saying he didn’t do it and in her eyes we’re wrong.
“Conservative”. Self identifying conservatives need lean into the question “conserve what?” harder.
Methinks many succumb to mistaking politicians mean the same as their best hopes of conserving community standards against degeneracy, rather than conserving the corrupt establishment.
Its like racism, you see someone who looks unlike you do something, you want to justify them not being like you or not human so you cant relate what they did to yourself
“Conserving the corrupt establishment” is the only thing “conservative” has ever meant. Any claims to the contrary have only ever been lies intended to delude their marks and useful idiots.
Implausible.
It means many different things. [Thus cannot be “only”]
Even if after the alleged original fact, that’s not “ever”.
They don’t get to dictate the one true way, and rewrite history.
And I suggest you should not be repeating their propaganda so.
Exactly, which is why you shouldn’t believe them when they pretend conservatism is anything but defending hierarchy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4CI2vk3ugk
This still seems to fall foul of the orwellian contortion and conflation and inversion of language, subtly doing the very thing overtly advising shouldn’t be done. Can’t get there from here. [Edit: from where they’re capitulated to and held at the head of the hierarchy of who gets to define words.]
It’s not quite as simple as stupidity. I think it’s poor critical thinking, plus a strong resistance to questioning their own beliefs. Combined, those things do appear to be stupidity, but there’s a difference.
Combined they appear to be stupidity because they are stupidity.
What else would stupidity be?
I don’t exactly know, but I’ve met conservatives who are highly skilled in their own complex fields of expertise. They can’t possibly be stupid and still be good at their jobs.
I think dismissing people as “stupid” just helps build barriers. We need to understand why conservatives do what they do. Why do they consistently vote against their own interests? Why are compassion and empathy seen as weaknesses?
Bob Altmeier makes the argument that it’s not that they can’t think, it’s that they were taught not to. It helps reduce conflict when the people above you get things wrong.
They are stupid. They don’t have to be stupid about everything to be stupid about their voting choices. They vote conservative/Republican/whatever against their own interests for a wide variety of reasons from it being the one their parents voted for all the way to dumb shit like ‘owning the libs’ because it makes them feel like they are on a team with people as stupid as they are. If they weren’t stupid they would notice the fat fucking orange turd who can’t string words into a coherent sentence is the face of the party tearing down every positive thing the country does.
They are stupid in lots of different ways. Can’t fix stupid. We need to motivate the unengaged voters by having the party farther to the left actually stand up and accomplish things in a way they get credit for.
theres nothing to understand, they either are acting stupid, or stupid or thier not. cant have it both ways lol. its not that hard.
That’s the definition of stupidity
All of the dots were connected for them. All the way from hunters laptop to trans woke Marxist grooming of kids rampant throughout our pretty independently run education systems, Biden’s letting millions of criminals into the country to rape and murder our families and inflation that came from… Uhh well they just said it was Democrats fault.
When every mother father sister brother friend coworker and aquantience is getting fed lies 24 hours a day intentionally made to make you hate specific groups of people, “They’re raping the dogs!” It gets to the point you don’t have to believe everything is true, you just know you can’t ever vote for Democrat.
People start to believe things and eat up the lies on accident. A good example is Nancy Pelosi. She has some shit policies and views, but anyone who has ever stated she was involved in insider trading has been a MAGA supporter. Every one. There have never been any evidence that she was involved in insider trading, and people have looked for near 2 decades now, but guess what, people who don’t like the way our capitalistic system works, are prone to want to hate or dislike rich people, so they want to believe it’s true, and they do. And they spread that misinformation far and wide helping support MAGA. Most didn’t do it intentionally, but that’s the end result, building support to mistrust and hate anyone left of MAGA. So when the option was MAGA or anyone left of MAGA, a good chunk of people said… well I guess MAGA isn’t that bad.
Because all his other deviancy didn’t affect her until this one.
Because she believes she’s the exception. All conservatives believe they are the exception.
just like gays, trans, black and latin trump supporters