IIRC the in universe reason for the E’s long ass nacelles was to allow it to achieve 9.95. I am pretty sure I remember part of the expanded universe going into experimental refits of the USS Sovereign that allowed it to hit 9.995.
Writers are not physicists, and the TOS Enterprise also had a few minutes above warp 10 at some point. It’s whatever a set of 2-4 writers and 3-5 producers decided that week, and retconning the awkward bits later.
It’s whatever a set of 2-4 writers and 3-5 producers decided that week, and retconning the awkward bits later.
it is actually not, they had detailed manual for that. star trek was inconsistent or vague about lot of stuff (for example how their economic utopia works), but they usually tried to have their technobabble consistent.
they changed how the warp speed works between TOS and TNG.
Now tell me about all the newfangled quantum slip stream, etc. that varied writers came up with since TNG in Disco and whatever. Ones that avoid the TNG warp 10 limit.
not relevant to your original claim, which was answered and set straight.
warp number higher than 10 in the TOS is not a proof of “set of writers doing whatever they felt like”. (shown above). whatever technology other than warp someone came up with 30 years later can hardly have an effect on the warp number in TOS.
Sure, but I’m saying that any thought or concern about a canon transwarp limit is at risk of being dashed by the whims of people looking for a plot device.
no, warp 10 is how paris and janeway made their lizard babies, left them stranded somewhere and then never talked about them again. worf is parent of the year compared to these two.
I just know if you go faster than Warp 9 you’re fucked
Warp 10. The Enterprise C regularly surpassed 9.5.
The D. We only saw The C once. That was the ship Tasha went to with Shooter McGavin.
IIRC the in universe reason for the E’s long ass nacelles was to allow it to achieve 9.95. I am pretty sure I remember part of the expanded universe going into experimental refits of the USS Sovereign that allowed it to hit 9.995.
Didn’t rikers enterprise go to warp 13?
Rikers enterprise went to Warp 69
It did, but it also attacked the klingons from below rather than the standard head on so we know they writers were all high when they wrote that!
Writers are not physicists, and the TOS Enterprise also had a few minutes above warp 10 at some point. It’s whatever a set of 2-4 writers and 3-5 producers decided that week, and retconning the awkward bits later.
it is actually not, they had detailed manual for that. star trek was inconsistent or vague about lot of stuff (for example how their economic utopia works), but they usually tried to have their technobabble consistent.
they changed how the warp speed works between TOS and TNG.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Warp_factor#Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series
(not saying there weren’t exceptions, for example there were some really random numbers flying in the equinox double episode.)
Then tell me what Tom Paris did in the Cochrane shuttlecraft ;)
That’s my point. It’s a standard until it’s not for a convenient plot reason.
TOS:
Warp factor speed (c) travelled in 24 hours (ly) Earth to Alpha Centauri 9 729 1.996 52.07 hours 10 1000 2.738 37.96 hours 11 1331 3.644 28.52 hoursfrom TNG forward:
9 1516 4.15 25.03 hours 10 ∞ ∞ 0the lizard babies episode, however absurd, is in line with this.
Cool.
Now tell me about all the newfangled quantum slip stream, etc. that varied writers came up with since TNG in Disco and whatever. Ones that avoid the TNG warp 10 limit.
not relevant to your original claim, which was answered and set straight.
warp number higher than 10 in the TOS is not a proof of “set of writers doing whatever they felt like”. (shown above). whatever technology other than warp someone came up with 30 years later can hardly have an effect on the warp number in TOS.
I never was making that claim, just that the person I replied to say going above 10 was dangerous
At some point in the cannon they decided warp 10 is the transwarp limit. They ignored it a couple of times.
they changed that between TOS and TNG.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Warp_factor#Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series
Like I’d trust a clanker! /s
Sure, but I’m saying that any thought or concern about a canon transwarp limit is at risk of being dashed by the whims of people looking for a plot device.
Oh for sure, warp factors and the limits thereof can be bent to fit a particular story
Well, at minimum, fucking seems to be involved.
The Delta Flyer went above Warp 10.
But that was Voyager, and Voyager frequently is not considered cannon.
Yeah, but you get to have sex with the captain, uncaffeinated.
Warp 10 was how they got back, wasn’t it?
But it’s also at the end of the Star Trek timeline, so they’re allowed to advance the tech curve a little bit
no, warp 10 is how paris and janeway made their lizard babies, left them stranded somewhere and then never talked about them again. worf is parent of the year compared to these two.
Voyager took a Borg transwarp corridor to get back to Earth. Future Admiral Janeway facilitated it.