• Deceptichum@quokk.auOP
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    In typical usage, retard (pronounced /ˈɹiː.tɑːɹd/, REE-tard) is an ableist slur for someone who is considered stupid, slow to understand, or ineffective in some way as a comparison to stereotypical traits perceived in those with intellectual disability. The adjective retarded is used in the same way, for something or someone considered very foolish or stupid. The word is sometimes censored and referred to as the euphemistic “r‑word” or “r‑slur” ‎ ‎ Retard was previously used as a medical term.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retard_(pejorative)

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      13 hours ago

      Retard was previously used as a medical term.

      As was idiot, cretin, moron, and imbecile, which suffered similar misuse.

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      12 hours ago

      In typical usage

      so you agree it is a multifaceted word that requires contextual definition in order to be used properly.

      The noun retard is recorded from 1788 in the sense “retardation, delay;” from 1970 in the offensive meaning “retarded person,” originally American English, with accent on first syllable. Other words used for “one who is mentally retarded” include retardate (1956, from Latin retardatus), and U.S. newspapers 1950s-60s often used retardee (1950).

      https://www.etymonline.com/word/retarded

      It’s unfair to judge a word that has over 500 years of use on the last 70 years of history.

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      Yea, and from the same wiki article:

      The word retard dates as far back as 1426. It stems from the Latin verb retardare, meaning “to hinder” or “make slow”.

      Much like today’s socially acceptable terms idiot and moron, which are also defined as some sort of mental disability, when the term retard is being used in its pejorative form, it is usually not being directed at people with intellectual disabilities. Instead, people use the term when teasing their friends or as a general insult.

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        I use the term as a general insult towards people who seem hellbent on never learning from their mistakes. Like when people keep voting for politicians who openly advocating for violence against those same people, or when people keep getting in car accidents because they think everyone else is the problem (Oh the irony though).

        Would never use it towards someone medically incapable of learning from their mistakes, that’s just cruel and not their fault.

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          12 hours ago

          this is either the perfect comment that uses the word “ignoramus”, or the worst insult.

          I’m still not sure if you actually meant to do it or not.

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              We’re not speaking bloody Latin ya ignoramus.

              ignoramous: 1570s, originally an Anglo-French legal term (early 15c.), from Latin ignoramus “we take no notice of, we do not know,” first person plural present indicative of ignorare “not to know, take no notice of” (see ignorant).

              your comment used it as a zeugma. the term described who you were speaking to as “one who is ignorant” as well as being used as a tongue-in-cheek soliloquy, using a Latin term when you had announced none were present, which used the original definition of “we take no notice of, we do not know”.

              it’s quite clever, though I doubt you meant to do it 😆.

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                17 hours ago

                Good, so you would understand that today the R word in 99% of any realistic context is going to be a slur. Stop trying to “um akshually” defend the usage of it.

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                  One thing I don’t like about this approach, which I have seen mostly coming from the US but also in other places, is that with the best intentions people identify a problem. Once the problem is identified some plausible solutions are discussed. A bit of attention is placed into how to act in everyday life to limit such an issue. An often proposed option, mostly in the US - I have not seen this in other places, is to stop using words that may have an influence in aggravating or normalising such a problem. All this is good thinking and a great way to address the problem, but eventually many people forget what the actual objective of such action was and end up discussing about the usage of words rather than the actual problem.

                  I’m pretty sure the person above did not mean to insult people with medical conditions in any way. Is the whole of this discussion actually important in any way? Are you actually helping people with mental diseases by pointing this out?

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                    I’m pretty sure the person above did not mean to insult people with medical conditions in any way.

                    I’m sure they didn’t. However, they’re using a term that is very offensive to some people, which they may be unaware of. That’s why it was pointed out. If they want to be an asshole and continue using it anyway, that’s on them.