Wayland is the successor to the X server (X11, Xorg) to implement the graphics stack on Linux. The Wayland project was actually started in 2008, a year before I created the i3 tiling window manager for X11 in 2009 — but for the last 18 years (!), Wayland was never usable on my computers. I don’t want to be stuck on deprecated software, so I try to start using Wayland each year, and this articles outlines what keeps me from migrating to Wayland in 2026.
  • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    161·
    3 days ago

    Seemed like he outlined everything he did and had decent points. I dislike articles that say “Here’s what you’re doing wrong” or “This GPL app is better than that GPL app”. But this one seems much more of a “This is what I do and how I do it”. I enjoy those. He’s not saying it for everyone, just his use cases and results.

    • just_another_person@lemmy.world
      43·
      2 days ago

      2nd paragraph:

      Unfortunately, the driver support situation remained poor for many years. With nVidia graphics cards, which are the only cards that support my 8K monitor, Wayland would either not work at all or exhibit heavy graphics glitches and crashes.

      So answering the headline question: it would work if you just stopped using the 8k monitor

      • kartoffelsaft@programming.dev
        4·
        2 days ago

        If your argument for Wayland is “stop using thousands of dollars in hardware to get it working”, then that’s not going to convince anyone. He doesn’t address that as a solution because that’s obviously a last resort.

        • just_another_person@lemmy.world
          14·
          2 days ago

          No, it’s actually the opposite. He has an 8k monitor. Get rid of that, and then he has no blockers to using things the way he wants. Pretty simple solution.

          If you buy hardware that is wildly incompatible with almost everything, then there’s your problem. You don’t buy things knowing it’s incompatible, and then wait for compatibility to come around whilst complaining about it UNLESS you intend to buy it to put some effort into making it work on your own.

          That’s the entire point of this ecosystem and being able to upstream fixes.

          • Magiilaro@feddit.org
            3·
            2 days ago

            It is not wildly incompatible with almost everything, it works perfectly fine his current X11 setup, and any system or setup that has the goal to replace X11 should at least should support all physical displays that X11 supports. And a modern replacement should have no issues with modern hardware.

              • Magiilaro@feddit.org
                31·
                2 days ago

                Not sure what you mean but:

                With the nVidia driver now working per se with Wayland, unfortunately that’s still not good enough to use Wayland in my setup: my Dell UP3218K monitor requires two DisplayPort 1.4 connections with MST (Multi Stream Transport) and TILE support. This combination worked just fine under X11 for the last 8+ years.

                As he said, it worked in X11 but not in Wayland.

                  • Magiilaro@feddit.org
                    21·
                    2 days ago

                    Oh i read both articles and I still have no clue why it would invalidate my point. Please enlighten my stupid little mind with some proper context and not only a link to a long document.