Under capitalism, a lot of the time, highly dangerous jobs are also highly paid. Kind of a balance that the individual decides to engage with. Same idea behind getting an advanced degree in STEM or law. I think of my job by example, I’m a power plant operator at a large combined cycle plant. No fucking shot I’d be doing this if the pay wasn’t good. I’m around explosive and deadly hot shit all day.

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    I don’t think communism means “everyone gets paid the same regardless of work”.

    Also capitalism doesn’t mean that people get paid more or less depending on type of work.

    Capitalist means that means of productions are privately owned by capital. While in communism means of production are owned by work.

    At least that’s the theory.

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      I see this definition of communism more lately, but the dictionary definition of communism absolutely does not rewards based on work. It rewards based on need. To the point where money can be abolished altogether. What you describe sounds like socialism, where the distribution of goods is based on contribution, rather than need.

      I feel like a lot of discussions surrounding communism have this issue, where people do not have the definition of communism aligned properly. Where did you learn your definition of communism? And where can one read about it? What I have been taught aligns very well with Wikipedia.

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        a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.

        You mean this dictionary definition (Oxford)?

        Needs differ, hence compensation differs. The needs of one involved in hazardous work tend to be a bit higher than those involved in baking croissants.

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      Alright, so, could you adress my question though? I know that sounds cunty, but, I’m not sure how else to respond.

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        They did answer your question. Same way in a “capitalist” society: those who take more responsibility or risk earn more benefit. More/better food, more rank, more commission, more salary, better housing, better medical care, etc.

        There are plenty of examples of this happening and also not happening under both capitalism and communism. Is there a trend? That’s a very long debate.

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            It’s spelled “caste,” and castes are (critically) hereditary. Leaving a caste you were born into is virtually impossible.

            People who do more/harder work can get compensated an appropriate amount. Note that this runs at odds to the current system where a CEO makes 1000x their employees salary despite not working 1000x as hard.

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              Ayeeee got me. I still don’t see how that doesnt just create the same type of class based system we already have.

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                Because everyone would have access to the same opportunities and same schools etc. Those with better talents or a better work ethic will probably make more money. Instead of today where families hoard wealth through generations.

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                  So different levels of society make different levels of money, allowing them to afford better qualities of life. You’re talking about capitalism.

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                    In capitalism as a whole economic mobility is not very prevalent. If you are born poor you generally have a worse education, worse nutrition, worse job prospects, etc

                    If you are born rich it is orders of magnitude easier to end up in a high paying career since you have a financial support system

                    The idea here would be to make sure everyone is given the same tools to succeed and the same options. For example anyone who can pass their could go to med school vs only people who can afford to go without a livable income for 13 years while working 60-100 hours weeks

                    Then you reward people who choose to do things others don’t want to do which is the compromise

                    You can have that as home as well where the person who cleans the bathroom gets an extra cookie after dinner

                    This is in huge contrast to capitalism where the owner of the house gets the entire box of cookies and is benevolent enough to spare a pittance of food in exchange for the bathroom being cleaned

                    Everyone would have their basic needs met, and nobody would have 10,000x what other people have

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                    The tenets of capitalism say nothing about how much each person makes. Nor do communism. If you’re eager to learn more, read something.

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                    I think you probably need to educate yourself a bit about some of the words you’re using. What do you think capitalism means? Do you think there’s only one way to have communism? Do you think there cannot be a market economy with communism?