I don’t need full features. Just give me intellisense and I’m gold.
Notepad++ my beloved
You can code in a text editor. It is cumbersome and annoying, but possibly.
You should however use a good ide if you want to be productive
i think it really depends on what you want to do, what languages you use and what text editor/ide you use. From my experience its usually not really worth it to get used to an IDE for bash. They all sucked. So instead I just have my emacs and my shell and I can start coding.
You can take away my auto complete, performance monitoring and all that jazz but you can’t tell me a debugging system isn’t absolutely essential if you actually want to finish a project in a reasonable amount of time
gdb works great without an IDE, and many text editors have autocomplete.
Why debugger when print?
It depends on what you do, but generally I can’t argue against a debugger.
I disagree that a person with low IQ would think its possible to code using a simple text editor. If anything he needs IDE more than any one else.
Yeah, it doesn’t fit the template but the low IQ version would be more like “You only need ChatGPT for coding.”
Every self-taught programmer I’ve seen starts off hacking at something in Notepad.
I upgraded to notepad++ I’ll have you know!
I spent years using Notepad++ as my professional editor. We were a Windows shop and all of the IDEs available were much slower and buggier. It’s a surprisingly decent introduction to the idea of what a good text editor can be.
Depends on where you start. When your first contact is HTML its not too unusual to use a text editor for development.
esp. if you started at the time when all you had for designing page layout were frames…
I interpreted it more like saying the first place people learn to code, especially if you’re not self taught, is in a text editor like vim or emacs.
Join the Vim cult! We have blackjack! And hookers!
(No guarantee of blackjack or hookers upon initiation).
I hate vim because of my first vim experience.
Can be traumatizing for some…
Already joined the emacs cult. Youre too late.
Don’t worry, cult membership is flexible.
I have no desire to work on a large project in a plain text editor.
No one is going to take IntelliJ from me. Tab completion master race!
Lots of simpler editors gained tab completion support over the last few years, thanks to the LSP protocol. I have it in Kate, for example.
I dream of an alternate reality where everyone started using Kate instead of VSCode.
Sub renewal is coming up in July. I’m seriously wondering whether I can get these vim bindings down before then.
You can keep using the current version without renewing your license, so there is no rush
Wow great tip, thanks!!!
My text editor of choice for many years was gedit. Nowadays, I use emacs
I’m hoping to transition from left to right wihtout going through the middle stage.
if you avoid Java most other languages have sane build systems.
In Neovim after re-writing my config I actually opted out of even using a LSP. If you have a picker with grep + fuzzy finder honestly the experience is not that bad and keeps things lean. You will need to change your workflow a bit but very doable. So I can stand behind the “meme”.
I use Helix but Zed is good
Zed? Who is Zed?
your neighbor, I guess
jokes aside, it’s actually a good editor. You can disable all the AI features if you want. Also, it doesn’t come with a fucking browser
Lite XL my beloved
Never heard of this one. Looks promising
Don’t worry, @aard@kyu.de already integrated OpenAI in Emacs.
My emacs installs Arch linux. Sometimes.
lol
We’re supposed to use GitHub copilot at work. There’s a Vim plug-in for it that works fairly well.
Though the worst flaw is still there then, which is needing to use Copilot.
