Was he actually thinking that those $450 were just gifted by the exporter?
The problem with people like this is NOT the fact that they were dumb enough to believe Trump’s lies about tariffs.
The real problem is them crying more about having to pay the tariffs themselves than about having been blatantly lied to.
The propaganda on tariffs is that foreign imports are bad and domestic manufacturing is good. And plenty of the conservative community accepts this, because they aren’t trying to buy direct from overseas. This guy is an outlier - a MAGA dude who is attempting to import a $2000 widget from Spain for whatever reason - and not representative of the average American voter.
Trump’s statements on tariffs aren’t even strictly false. Businesses can and do shave their margins, eating some percentage of the cost of tariffs, in order to keep their bulk exports competitive. You’re just not going to see that happen on a one-off specialty import, because the guy in Spain isn’t trying to be competitive at scale with a rival US industry.
We’re already seeing more high value manufacturing happening within the US to evade Trump’s tariffs. US tariffs on Japanese imports during the 1987 trade war brought electronics and auto manufacturing into the country in the same way. That’s why we’ve been building Toyota Cars in Kentucky for decades.
Now we’re seeing Samsung and LG planning plants in the US. We’re seeing the same from BMW and Volkswagon. Is this smart trade policy? Feel free to inject your own economic orthodoxy below. But to say its not working as intended… No. The US has enormous influence in global trade. What Trump’s doing has absolutely reversed the flow of manufacturer outsourcing.
DROP THE PANTS! DROP THE PANTS! TAKE THE SHROOM! TAKE THE SHROOM!
art of getting kicked in the nuts and blaming ‘da dems’
OP is supposed to take their now even less money and start a business/factory/supply chain in america making those things in america so that OP can be extorted by the Trump administration so that Trump can then take OP’s new business from OP.
C’mon that OP isn’t even trying to understand what is happening.
FAFO.
That’s the frustrating part people don’t see — tariffs hit the buyer directly, not the exporter. It’s a real shock the first time you run into it.
Well the exporter get hit too. People might choose another product as you can’t be competitive on price
Link to the post please?
The fact that the distinction of who the fees actually get connected from matters so much to people is so crazy to me. It doesn’t matter who the fees are collected from, you’re paying them regardless. If the exporter pays them they will just raise the price you pay to cover the cost. It also amazes me that so many people who were in favor of tariffs somehow think they wouldn’t raise prices even though that’s literally the entire fucking point of tariffs. They raise the prices of foreign goods to give domestic goods that cost more an advantage.
That’s a really big issue, tbh. People don’t get how prices work. You see the same with promotions/sales. A lot of shops/companies will often put their products on sale for 25%, 50% or even more off. And people think they will actually save that amount of money. Instead of realizing that in most cases the sales price is the regular price, and the regular price is inflated by the sales price amount so that if the product is sold the seller still makes the same margins.
In a former job the company started expanding to Asia, and we got a sales guy from Singapore to represent us in Asia. He said that if we aren’t selling with at least 60% rebate, we have no chance of selling stuff in Asia. So we created a new price list for Asia with all the prices tripled.
JCPenney tried to move to a more transparent pricing structure in 2012 and it lost them nearly a billion dollars.
So sad when companies try to do the right thing, the consumer market is too dumb to appreciate it.
Regardless of whether you call it a sale, regular, or inflated prices aren’t you still saving money by buying when it’s relatively low?
I’m aware of the psychology of marketing and the trickery of things like Black Friday. But unless the sale price is literally the same as it was when not on sale, then I’m not following.
Edit: in your Asian rebate example, is the idea that those customers want to see a high price and then get a big rebate when they buy it? That’s fascinating! (And has probably worked on me too)
If the model is high rebates at some times (e.g. an article costs €50 instead of €100 for part of the time), then you do save money buying when it’s at €50.
But you have to remember that €50 is the price at which the seller would usually sell the product. That’s the price that their price calculation says that it should be sold at. Otherwise they’d not be making profit.
So the alternative model is to always sell the article at €50.
Or to put it differently: The seller does the price calculation and comes up with €50 being the price where they would need to sell it to make profit and the price that the customers would still buy it at. It’s the optimal price, and the price they should be going with.
Instead, they sell it for €100, so they can discount it to €50 and put a big “-50%” sticker onto it. Hardly anyone who has the choice buys at €100, everyone waits for the sale, when it’s put to €50. And then more people buy, because they think they have made a massive deal, because they have gotten a €100 item for only €50. They are going to tell all their friends about it, it might even make it into news articles or stuff like that, and then more people buy.
The other option, which is illegal in some countries but legal in others, is to just fake the “full” price all together. The product is always offered at €50, but the sticker says “
€100-50% super sale!”You can see stuff like that on Aliexpress. Pick some article that has a 50% rebate during some sales holiday (e.g. Black Friday). Then look at the article a week later, and in almost all cases the non-rebated price next week will be the same as the rebated price during Black Friday.
People just love being lied to. It’s really sad.
WE TRIED TO TELL YOU!
USA USA USA!
Technically corrext US flag You could put the stars as stars on the circus tent
Ah see I interpreted the image as “it’s a big tent and none of the states are in it” as in the repugants (might have mispelled here) red elites don’t give a shit about the country.
(might have misspelled here)
You didn’t
Great idea, be the first to do it if you want.
Cant. Not on my phone
DHL try to charge import duties using bogus rates even for things that do not require duties and which they have no reason to think will require duties. And then if you pay them, they just keep the money.
DHL had a package of mine stuck in a delivery center for a month then they just deleted all my tracking info and claimed no knowledge of it.
DHL in this thread, downvoting comments???
I tell you what, the next time this person votes for the orange child rapist he’s going to do it very begrudgingly!!
Haha, just kidding. There’s not going to be elections again, or at least not until the obese imbecile dies and passes on the dictatorship…to Eric.
This way of thinking is hilarious. Dumb too but also hilarious.
What leads anyone to think the source would pay for this.
And that absolute self centered attitude of benefit for him as if the US was the center of the world.
Welcome to international trading and politics. Your country is descending fast and in the coming years you will learn a lot.
No he won’t
He will experience many things. He will be lied to about those experiences.
Okay so pretend they are right, pretend that the Spanish manufacturer pays the tariff:
Do you think they will still sell it at the same price if they had to pay $450? They’d just charge you more to cover their fees, lmfao.
Edit: Oh someone here already commented this, oops
Maybe they assumed it was built into the price already.
So, one of the few countries in the western world (don’t know enough to generalize more) that never includes the taxes in the prices, but somehow they expected the tariffs to be included in the price…
PS: This is not a dig at you, it is because surely you are right about their expectation in many cases…
These people can’t be as stupid as these looks into their lives suggest? Ignorant though? They are really ignorant.
