Intensive care nurses immediately doubted the word of federal immigration officers when they arrived at a Minneapolis hospital with a Mexican immigrant who had broken bones in his face and skull.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents initially claimed Alberto Castañeda Mondragón had tried to flee while handcuffed and “purposefully ran headfirst into a brick wall,” according to court documents filed by a lawyer seeking his release.
But staff members at Hennepin County Medical Center determined that could not possibly account for the fractures and bleeding throughout the 31-year-old’s brain, said three nurses familiar with the case.
So attempted murder? Or did he die and it was just regular murder?
Edit. Seems this incident happened Jan 8. Where’s the outrage? Do people just not give half a shit unless the victim is white?
I think the giving the shit is when white males die.
Minorities get the Three-fifths Give a Shit Compromise. White females sometimes get a bonus point 1/5th.
Unfortunately Rene Good was not heterosexual, and forfitited her bonus point.
Race is probably a component, but a big one is video of the incident getting to the public. Watching an unambiguous violation instead of reading an account is far more powerful, and removes all doubt of witness reliability.
Can we stop with the ragebait? The incredibly, over the top obvious difference in outrage between cases is whether it’s on video or not. Why the fuck do people keep pushing this angle? Why are you pretending like video evidence doesn’t matter? It’s fucking weird, at best.
I’m pretty convinced that Lemmy’s politics board is thoroughly compromised. Constant deluge of posters intent on spreading a sense of doom and fear.
I tag them and never see them again.
Do you mean you block them or is there actually some way to tag users that I don’t know about?
Lemmy connect app lets you tag users. Super useful.
I usually tag belligerent people, and block them if I see them do it again
I’m starting to think this also. Literally every day I see some dipshit claiming that no one cared about ICE until it was a white person (they say that about both of the recent cases). Literally have never gotten one response (from the person claiming it’s only a race thing) to my replies saying it’s because these killings were on video. It’s fucking bizarre.
Is everyone who says “people only care because they are white” forget about George Floyd? Pretty sure there were very large, nationwide protests for that.
No they didn’t forget. They’re lying intentionally would be my guess. Anyone old enough to comment on politics right now ought to remember George Floyd.
Oh yeah. And then some. Back around the beginning of the month I got into it with someone here who was trying to play like they live in Minneapolis and know all about the city while they were putting out similar ragebait, except they had no idea, literally none, where George Floyd was killed. Oh, and the “American” genius who was holding forth on all the things the US Constitution says that are not actually in there while having multiple English lapses. That was some shit.
I should add that when I see this, I never offer the specific correction because I want other pretenders like them to fall into the same trap. So I pick around it to let them flounder in their obvious errors because I know anyone paying attention will see it for themselves, and I’d suggest that to others as well: point it out without actually correcting it. Highlight it, quote it, ask about it and all around it, but don’t call it wrong and don’t correct it, so that they can’t use your input to better their game.
To be clear, if someone’s not American and you have a bone to pick with the US, so what. Join the club.
But if you’re pretending to be American, actively lying about where you are so you can try to manipulate, discourage and get people to give up, then you can fuck yourself sideways with a rusty chainsaw and I absolutely will jam a stick in your spokes when I see it.
EDITED to clarify
There was no clear video like the other incident. Get out of here with that race baiting bullshit. Straight out of the opposition play book - attempt to divide.
HIPAA laws would have prevented hospital personnel from speaking publicly about this, and of course ICE was hushing it up, seems like his friends broke the story after he was out.
HIPAA prevents the discussion of personally identifying information and access to information that doesn’t have to do with your job. The nurses and doctors that treated this person could have absolutely confirmed that ICE brought somebody in with a crushed skull as long as they left it at that.
I don’t know the exact wording, but I don’t think so. Sure, you can share information if it’s anonymized, but that isn’t. There was only one person brought in by ICE I assume. It isn’t anonymous. It’d be incredibly easy to tie it to a single person.
I really want a reply from you. Explain why it somehow doesn’t matter that the killings drawing the most ire are on video. Explain it you coward.
I mean the difference between outrage and no outrage being a video when both faced similar fate is telling, isn’t it?
Is that how your outrage operates? I mean I’ve seem news report from other countries that a news of murders lead to burning of police building in the other part of the country without any video.
But it’s racist to call people who elected a racist as their president only getting alarmed when they’re affected.
Get out with your bullshit rhetoric claiming this is some artificial manipulation.
Go back and read some of your own racist history. It isn’t very much different.
Goddamn you’re weird. Ever met a human? Absolutely human nature to be more impacted by something you see. Not complicated. I love when people are so obsessed with racism that the undeniable racism we see everywhere isn’t enough. Got invent some more.
That’s exactly right. The outrage in Minnesota started when they killed a white man. There was an earlier incident where a minority was killed at a traffic stop and it wasn’t in the news cycle longer than a day: https://chicago.suntimes.com/the-watchdogs/2025/11/17/silverio-villegas-gonzalez-ice-dhs-trump-midway-blitz-shooting-homicide-franklin-park-chicago
It’s not on video. You do know that’s the real reason for the outrage. This is not a question.
You mean to tell me US could kill a lot of innocent people, but because they’re no video at that exact time, everyone’s fine with it?
checks US history and invasions without consequences
Yeah, of course.
Didn’t the current set of protests start with the murder of Réné Good?
Shh, don’t interrupt them giving the right fuel when they accuse us of calling everything racist. It’s totally an awesome thing of this user to do because we all know that video evidence and facts don’t matter at all.
Mother fuckers, most of you fucks were ready to put all of Palestinians under the bus because they’re brown and not in sight to save yourself.
We see right through your racist dog whistles. Facts have never matter to you and never have people, until it directly affects you.
History is witness. Your country has always been a shame on humanity.
Yeah this comment illustrates my point perfectly. You’re a fraud. Peddle this bullshit on Twitter or Facebook.
Usually the case. No one is pissed about all the Native Americans being disappeared by ICE.
Except it made headlines and drew outrage and I believe said outrage got them all (or at least most of them) released.
But sure, let’s focus all our efforts on making an objectively racist regime seem somehow equivalent to the public opposition because yes clearly everything we do is evidence we are just as racist as ICE. /s
IIRC there was a man that was strangled to death in custody, but people stopped talking about it once it came out he was a sex offender.
Even Renee’s death lost attention when it came out she was gay.
We have a problem in this country with empathy, and who we extend basic human rights to.
We’re experiencing large scale human rights violations every day but people look the other way.
We are still talking about it a lot every day… Also, I’m not quite sure how you’d gauge a difference there. We knew she was gay like an hour into the coverage.
It didn’t come out Renee was gay.
It did. I saw early on that it was her wife there at the scene of the murder.
It didn’t cause any loss of attention. The person you’re responding to is a liar.
I guess it depends where you are and how you read the news. From outside the USA I saw a lot of details about the murder, and the backlash, before reading that her wife was in the car at the time. It probably took a couple of days?
“Her wife” was included in news reports within about an hour. Didn’t seem like any sort of delay to me.
Fair enough. I guess I mostly saw breaking reports which were fairly scant on personal details followed by opinion pieces which focused more on the “usa slides further into fascism” angle.
I recall the first reports talking about her dead husband and acting like her kid was an orphan.
I recall the tone changing in how people talked about her in various threads and articles depending on how prevalent her being gay was.
Maybe we saw those reports within an hour, but I recall people still responding to the straight-washed articles the next day.
I’m not going to say her sexuality hasn’t changed the responses by some, it absolutely has. But its not like it was somehow held back.
That said, there are people saying things like “Pretti shouldn’t have reached for his gun” - a statement that is absolutely insane considering he not only never reached for his gun, but was also disarmed when he was murdered.
Thats an issue with ignorance, not with reporting. The information is readily available, some just grab that first headline and never bother to learn more.
I noticed no change like this at all. We’ve had nationwide protests for Renee Good.