• the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Such a dumb ass concept, lets add complexity and increased failure rates to something that had worked fine for a century.

    Good on china for banning this stupid shit.

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    10 hours ago

    TLDR

    In a statement released Monday, the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology cited “the inconvenience with operating the exterior door handles and their inability to open after an accident,” and laid out specific requirements for how these handles should function.

    Exterior door handles should have enough space for a hand to operate its mechanical release from any angle. And interior handles should be “clearly visible from the corresponding occupant’s position,” it said

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      10 hours ago

      That’s quite a sensible regulation. You’ll more often hear about what things China doesn’t regulate, so I’m glad to hear of a pro-consumer law coming into effect.

  • Korkki@lemmy.ml
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    11 hours ago

    Isn’t the issue with Tesla doors that they are electrical and can like jam totally if battery loses power or catches fire and roasts the passengers alive? Like what Tesla engineers always knew, but it was implemented over mechanical doors because it looked cool and futuristic.

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      11 hours ago

      there are mechanical releases on the inside, but if you use them you risk breaking the windows.

      except for the rear doors on the e and y. they don’t have mechanical releases at all.

      and the rear release on the x is a wire below the seat rather than a lever on the door.

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        55 minutes ago

        The thing with hidden door handles is also that they can freeze quite easily. I guess not a problem in an area with no real winter

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        10 hours ago

        there are mechanical releases on the inside, but if you use them you risk breaking the windows

        Wait, what? Sorry, I’m not fancy enough to have any experience with these things, so I’m struggling to picture how exactly this would work… lol

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          8 hours ago

          teslas have frameless windows in the doors, like subarus and some bmws. like bmws but unlike subarus, the windows automatically retract a bit when you open the door.

          this is because while subaru windows just push in against a gasket on the body, tesla and bmw windows also push up into a recess in the gasket. this removes a lot more wind noise.

          the difference is that bmws have a mechanical door handle with a sensor that lowers the window, while teslas have a button to open the door and drop the window, as well as a separate emergency release latch that’s purely mechanical and does not affect the window. meaning that if you pull the manual release and push hard on the door, the window gets stuck in the gasket and shatters. this can also happen in bmws but only if the 12V battery is flat.

          to add insult to injury, the “open door” button on at least the model 3 is where the window controls would usually be, and the manual release is where a door handle usually is.

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          like so:

          photograph of a tesla model 3 door panel witt button and manual release highlighted

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            7 hours ago

            nope, fully just a lever on the door, below the armrest. if you’re my height it’s exactly where your outer-side hand lands when you sit down.

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    10 hours ago

    Hell yeah, adds complexity and safety concerns while bringing nothing to the table, besides negligible aerodynamics