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    And thus, the Night of Long Knives begins.*

    Edit: The AP, as of 15 min ago has posted an update: “Dugan was taken into custody by the FBI on Friday morning on the courthouse grounds, according to U.S. Marshals Service spokesperson Brady McCarron. She appeared briefly in federal court in Milwaukee later Friday before being released from custody. Her next court appearance is May 15.”

    Thank goodness, she has been released- even if she is still going on trial for a trumped-up charge.

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        That’s just the official language. They may not kill her, but they are going to remove anyone that gets in their way is what this says to me.

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          They’re going to use her as an example for the justification to arrest other judges as well. This is unprecedented and is going to lead to open violence in the streets.

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            Thee is not going to be a violent uprising people are to comfortable and lazy.

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              Fuck off with this rhetoric, please. While we aren’t going around torching ICE/cop vehicles and rioting, it doesn’t mean we aren’t doing anything at all. From protesting with millions across the country and world, to gun purchases and training, to local community outreach and support, things are not stationary.

              The world news media is focused on the administration and pussyfooting around the lies and manipulation the administration keeps spewing, there’s no media clicks to be had for preparation stories. It’s not to the point of violence in the streets, yet, but that doesn’t mean we aren’t preparing for the possibility.

              You wanna be shitty toward the American government as a Canadian, I’m all for it. But please don’t conflate this administration with the American population at large. We are not our government and despite no news coverage, we are not idle.

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            If it’s true. These could be manufactured charges. I don’t trust Patel or the Trump administration to be honest about that.

            Patel in his tweet wrote that the FBI believes Dugan “intentionally misdirected federal agents away” from Ruiz as agents were attempting to arrest him at her courthouse.

            “Thankfully our agents chased down the perp on foot and he’s been in custody since, but the Judge’s obstruction created increased danger to the public,” Patel said in the post.

            And they all clapped at the end.

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                That’s if they give the judge due process, and don’t just immediately claim she’s guilty- kinda like they’re doing to people they’re deporting already. Not a stretch to just skip her due process at this point.

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                    How? They’re taking people with no due process and deporting them already. Why would her being a judge make her position any different, if they are skipping due process again? This administration has shown that they don’t care about due process- they just make an accusation, and then go straight to “guilty until proven innocent.”

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                    And we can ignore the clear pattern of behavior this admin has already shown so far, but that doesn’t make what they are doing any less real; what’s your point?

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      The problem with the MAGA/Nazi comparison is not that MAGA isn’t as evil, it’s that they’re less competent.

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        And why is that a problem? It sounds like a hindrance to them, which is a definite good thing.

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          Stupid is not the same as harmless. They routinely harm themselves gleefully. They can’t comprehend the full consequences of their own actions. That makes them dangerous.

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            I didn’t say they were harmless. I said their incompetence only helps their opposition.

            The Nazis were more competent and still lost. How would being less competent than that help them in any way?

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              They are causing generational damage to the country. Just because their incompetence doesn’t help them doesn’t mean it isn’t still hurting us. That’s the opposite of helping.

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                Again, I never said they weren’t causing harm. You’re conflating the concepts of aid and beneficence.

                Trump and his ilk being in power is not beneficial to the country, but their sheer stupidity in attempting to achieve their goals aids their opposition in stopping them.

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                  And you’re not understanding the type of harm idiots do as opposed to smart evil people. Take immigration. A smart evil person might revoke visas and deport illegal aliens for small things not previously done. They could do this while shielding themselves legally by working within the constraints of the law. The opposition would be powerless because they stay within the law. These ass clowns are deporting legal aliens to countries they have been explicitly protected from being sent to, detaining US born citizens, threatening to deport people to countries they have no connection to, and myriad other completely illegal and unconstitutional things. In a perfect world the opposition could hold them accountable in court. But the opposition is still trying to fight “fair” and twiddling their fucking thumbs.

                  So this abso-fucking-lutely is not a good scenario because they are stupid. Way more harm is being done and the opposition isn’t doing a fucking thing.

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        it’s that they’re less competent

        Not sure if that’s true actually, the Nazis were supremely incompetent as well. It just doesn’t take that much competence to smash a delicate balance like the separation of powers. You basically need control of one the three branches of government and you are good to try, Trump controls two and this news is about him smashing the third.

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        Mine stay loaded. 6 mags for the rifle. It seems like overdoing it to my wife but I will not go to a camp. The shit RFK has proposed puts people like me in danger, even though I’m a cis straight white male. Even if I wasn’t on the list so to speak, I would be armed and ready because the people they have targeted are my countrymen. Citizen or not.

        Fucking idiot racists can’t get it through their heads that they’re not going to stop with brown and trans people.

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      Nah, this is more akin to the Gleichschaltung. The Night of the Long Knives was the Nazis purging their own.

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        I disagree- I think Gleichschaltung has been underway since day one. This is a much more heinous overstep of the executive branch, imo

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          Gleichschaltung took a bit of time for the nazis.

          The Night of the Long Knives is only applicable if the judge herself were a nazi who is seen as a potential threat due to being slightly differently aligned than the main faction.