Summary

A genuine backlash to Trump’s ethno-nationalist authoritarianism may be starting to take shape on its own terms.

The Washington Post-ABC News poll shows “Trump slipping underwater on immigration, which has been his best issue,” with 56% of independents disapproving of his handling.

Only 21% of independents want wrongfully deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia to remain imprisoned. These policies “raise basic issues of fundamental fairness, due process, and the rule of law.”

Trump’s lawlessness across the board is clearly a problem, reinforcing the view he’s engaged in rampant extralegal abuses of power.

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    21 hours ago

    How was anyone expecting the guy who openly tried to steal an election after losing to be anything but lawless?

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      20 hours ago

      You don’t even have to think that hard into it. The man is litterally a convicted felon. The only reason he isn’t in jail is Biden’s DoJ wasn’t as aggressive as it could have been.

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        19 hours ago

        Biden’s DOJ: People will respect us for being non-partisan

        People: See, if Trump did any real crimes he’d be in prison but he’s not because Biden’s DOJ was just playing politics

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      The mass media, even so called lefty MSNBC which is center at best. Though usually pretty solid right. Didn’t cover it with the appropriate tone or seriousness it deserved. MSNBC did at least start out that way and tried before giving up. The rest of the media never did. And so there was 4 years of largely rehab to trumps image. The simple fact that he incited a coup wasn’t brought up much for fear of losing access.

      And so, people started to question their own eyes. Question whether there was actually really a coup or not. If it was just being blown out of proportion like conservatives blow fluoride in the water out of proportion. If the popular media isn’t going to treat it like it’s serious why would the average consumer of popular media?

      Hell so much of the media spent so much more time covering Republican false accusations of Democrats smuggling in immigrants to hurt America. Suddenly the truth became lies and lies became the truth.

      And before you admonish and ridicule these people for not going to such and such website to get the truth etc. A lot of people don’t get their information and news online still. Relying on the completely captured 4th estate to report on and distill even news happening online down for them. And this is the power of control and propaganda. For a short while at least perception can be reality. We need to spend less time haranguing and attacking people who mistakenly voted for trump. Instead trying to find a way to disarm and defeat the captured fourth estate.

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        11 hours ago

        And before you admonish and ridicule these people for not going to such and such website to get the truth etc.

        Clearly everyone who isn’t getting their news from Lemmy is irresponsible!

        Sure, there are valid complaints about the media, but anyone who heard Trump say

        I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have

        and still voted for him had everything they needed to know better, and who didn’t hear that excerpt from the Raffensperger call?

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          Honestly without knowing the context something like that actually would be easy to slip by. It’s absolutely simple to think of any campaign saying we need to find X votes in this region to win. Though usually we would just think they’re talking about actually winning votes and not just whipping them up out of thin air or disenfranchising others to get them.

          And remember again. That wasn’t in the media very long at all. It was even more of a blip than anything related to January 6th. Republicans and fascists can keep a line in the public Consciousness for decades. Democrats can’t even stay focused on the truth and pushing it. For more than a month or two. Of course it’s really easy to perpetuate a message and control it when you control the media and Outlets that people get it from. So Democrats are always going to be at a disadvantage. Even if they did try.

          Honestly I’m not sure what an actual good solution is to this problem. About the best I can think of right now is everyone should be friends with a good poli-size student when it comes to politics or someone involved in research science when it comes to science Etc. To help temper their understanding and cut through a lot of sensationalist b******* that gets put out there

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      20 hours ago

      It wasn’t his fault. You might as well blame gunmakers for school shootings.

      Trump had nothing to do with January 6, and the fact that he’s pardoned so many of the people who were there shows how compassionate he is!

      No /s because that’s what the MAGats will tell you