• Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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    8 hours ago

    Manliness has always been a scam.

    Source: me having grown up in the Balkans where manliness tends to reign supreme as a life goal

    • Laser@feddit.org
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      3 hours ago

      It’s stupid on so many levels.

      First off, it implies there is some sort or series of social masculine trait(s) that are in some way desirable. It gets even more stupid when this turns into expectations, like “you’re a man, you should X”.

      It’s kind of sad but not unsurprising that there’s an industry trying to capitalize on the resulting insecurities.

      I think it was a positive aspect of the MGTOW idea to reject these expectations and do your own thing.

      • krashmo@lemmy.world
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        4 hours ago

        Only if your conception of masculinity is stupid. There are plenty of manly role models out there, we’ve just largely decided not to pay them much attention.

        • Fluffy Kitty Cat@slrpnk.net
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          3 hours ago

          If you step out of line with what is considered acceptable (and The most toxic insecure men incent things to be afraid of out of nowhere) you get harshly punished. Learned this the hard way growing up trans