• piefood@feddit.online
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      13 hours ago

      I think you dropped this:

      • supported genocide
      • supported an unpopular president
      • ran on unpopular policies
      • let the voters know that she didn’t care about what they wanted
      • wanted to keep the US military the “most lethal fighting force” despite the fact that we use them to kill innocent people
      • gaslit the voters on the economy

      Is Trump still worse? yes, absolutely. But maybe the Democrats could try running candidates that aren’t obviously terrible if they want to win.

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      We had a bad choice and a worse choice. So i said let it all fall.

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        We had a bad choice and a worse choice. So i said let it all fall. I’m a sociopath that’s fine with seeing minorities being brutalized and killed so long as I can maintain some kind of bullshit ideological purity.

        FTFY

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          Now I voted (not that it would have mattered as Kamala was going to win my state regardless), but for the sake of argument I also didn’t see minorities NOT being brutalized and killed under Biden or Obama. Or Clinton for that matter.

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        So i said let it all fall.

        At lest vote 3rf party.

        Otherwise the material reality is that you got out the way for the worse choice. Obstruction isn’t ideal, but its helpful none the less

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        At least with the bad choice more people would have energy and resources to fight back in more meaningful ways.

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          Worse option is exiling American citizens, tanking the economy, persecuting minorities, taking away rights, ignoring the constitution and, notably, full backing genocide in Gaza.

          Bad option would not act to stop genocide in Gaza.

          Clearly the same thing.

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            Worse option is exiling American citizens, tanking the economy, persecuting minorities, taking away rights, ignoring the constitution and, notably, full backing genocide in Gaza.

            I saw all of these things happen under the past few “bad options”.

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      That was never the criticism from anyone actually opposing Trump. The criticism is that she built her career as a cop, locking people up for minor offenses, fighting to keep them in prison for cheap labor, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth. But sure, go ahead and whitewash her record because it’s easier to joke than to confront the fact that your “lesser evil” still has blood on her hands.

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        That was never the criticism from anyone actually opposing Trump.

        Yes it was. It was a dumb and invalid argument, but it came up more often than it ever should have. It was an EXCUSE to not vote for her, because it was easier to say that than to admit that they’re just afraid of a woman in power.

        I realize there were many more valid reasons to dislike her but compared to trump, she’s a goddamn saint. Plus, I liked her VP pick better than trump’s. She also would have selected a much more competent and qualified cabinet.

        The criticism is that she built her career as a cop, locking people up for minor offenses, fighting to keep them in prison for cheap labor, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth.

        Those are all valid criticisms, but trump built his career as a criminal, is deporting people for minor offenses, fighting to deport innocent people to prison labor camps in countries they are not even from, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth.

        So comparing the two with just those criticisms, it’s a wash. And then adding on all the other AWFUL shit trump is doing, especially “project 2025,” it’s no contest.

        But sure, go ahead and whitewash her record because it’s easier to joke than to confront the fact that your “lesser evil” still has blood on her hands.

        I’m not whitewashing anything, I made a sarcastic comment mocking the misogynists who have put a LITERAL AUTHORITARIAN MADMAN in the presidency because they couldn’t handle a woman president.

        When our choices are : lesser evil or absolute evil (and the third choice is: just let absolute evil win), we really can’t let petty things like “annoying laugh” (again- just a lame excuse for misogyny) go.

        I was accused of having “blood in my hands” for voting for Harris. But really, protest voting against Harris is drenching yourself in that same blood plus gallons more.

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          I said criticism, you think no one who opposed Trump should have criticised former cop who built her career on locking people up?

          ACAB, just not one of the worst kind?

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            She was an attorney working for the executive branch, not a cop. Applying for a job higher up in the executive branch. If we are going to call everyone who executes the laws bastards, then you can’t vote for anybody to join the executive branch, as you are willingly choosing to make them a bastard apparently.

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              Just so everyone is on the same page, to you the slogan All Cops Are Bastards applies not to all corrupt people in the legal system that abuse us and imprison us, but it’s exclusively police officers?

              Just checking.

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        I only really saw those criticisms of her from people already on the left. What I saw (in generalized and slightly exaggerated manner) from conservatives was, “NO, SHE’S A LIBERAL, WOKE, COMMUNIST WHO WANTS TO DESTROY AMERICA!”

        To which most people I saw on the left respond with, “Communist? The former cop and DA?”

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          Every criticism presented is completely true. She would have been better than trump, but she was a terrible Democratic candidate. She would have made a better Republican candidate. Her campaign would only needed to have focused on her prosecutorial career.

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            Hope the next election (if there is one) goes your way and the candidate is perfect.

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              • supports a genocide
              • supports torture programs
              • supports increasing military and intelligence funding
              • supports deporting innocent people
              • supports a highly unpopular president
              • runs on highly unpopular policies

              I think you might have a skewed definitions of what “perfect” means. I think most people would settle for “not a monster” but that’s too high of a bar for the DNC.

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              That, but unironically.

              Winning a presidential election isn’t about the votes that are cast. It’s about the voters that stay home. It’s really difficult to get people to the polls when your entire platform is “a little less evil than the other guy.”.

              I voted for the lesser evil, and I know why so many did not. You do us no favors by refusing to recognize that the lesser evil is still evil.