I mean, he’s correct in that both political parties have been bought and paid for by large corporations for a long time. This shouldn’t be news, it should be plainly obvious by now.
One party is openly hostile towards the average citizen. The other puts on a friendly mask for the public but is also hostile towards the average citizen. None of them actually give a fuck about the average person. Trump is exceptionally arrogant and aggressive with his goals, but I promise he is far from the first person to have such goals or to exploit the government system for personal gain. He is the first to be so obvious about it, but it has been happening for decades, hidden under the guise of ‘security’ and other buzz words.
The news isn’t that the Democratic party is bought and paid for by the oligarchy. The news is that Bernie has stopped playing nice with the DNC.
Thank you for that take; this is the important part. Now I’d like him to get mean, please.
Without organized labor parties to call for strikes or make demands we are really stuck waiting for somebody famous (and who we trust) to say what needs to be said, and organize what needs to be organized. And it needs to happen soon. In Bernie we could trust.
Well, duuuhhh. Is this a new or unique take?
Hes 100% right, she started the campaign great talking about progressive real issues, then when she started changing thats when she started losing support
No no no. She ran a perfect campaign.
I have it on good authority that she was stabbed in the back by far-left, transgender, pro-Putin antisemites.
Next time - and there will be a next time, it’s her turn - she needs to be even more friendly with moderate Republicans and win back the Joe Rogan demographic. The Democrats need their own Jordan Peterson. They need their own Yeomni Park. They need their own Curtis Yarvin. They need their own X, The Everything App.
That is the only way to win the coveted American swing voter.
I hear it may be Gavin Newsom’s turn. Just shoot me.
We choose the lesser evil. Now, look what happened when people don’t act and give up.
This seems to be how the majority of Democrats in office are and they’ll never see themselves as wrong… They just point at Trump and say he’s what’s wrong. And yeah they’re not wrong about that but that doesn’t make them right or good either. You get stuck running for a bad candidate or a downright evil candidate. And yeah I voted for Harris. I voted for Biden and Hilary too. Id vote for a literal log of shit on the floor before I voted for Trump, but that doesn’t mean I liked the Democratic candidates or that I’m super happy with party. This country isn’t set up to make third party candidates an option… But no…I don’t think the Democrats in office will every see themselves as a problem.
A third of your comment is a disclaimer that democrats arent exactly the same as Republicans. Sorry, you are well below the 69% threshold, and are now a secret Republican nazi Russian communist who loves trump with all your heart! /$
Bernie is pointing out one of the major flaws of the Democratic Party and he is way ahead of his time in regard to US politics. Can you imagine if the USA would look at itself like Norway.
An oil producing enthostate governed by a neoliberal plutocracy?
I think we already tried that under Bush, Obama, and Biden.
Is, “influenced by billionaires,” a euphemism for, “she let her uber executive brother-in-law talk her into gutting any economic populism from her campaign in favor of tepid centrist policies that cost her the election and ushered in a new era of American fascism?”
I mean I’m not sure Bernie is that woke, much as I love him, but that’s pretty much the view from over here.
I disagree, but I do think he has an outdated notion of civil politics and wouldn’t make the same point in connection with her. I’m surprised he said as much about Harris, though I’m grateful if it helps dissuade the Dems from re-nominating her.
I dont know if you’ve been to reddit but there are a ton of Gavin Newsom posts. They’re probably gonna force this blue conservative down the voting publics throats.
And all i hear are crickets from the democratic party regarding replacing First-past-the-post voting in the blue states they control. The democrats will never release their hostages willingly.
Nobody trusts the DNC, we just don’t know what to do otherwise at this point. How DO we the people get past the 2 party system? How DO we reduce the powers of the presidency without a president themselves reducing those powers? How do we get someone in that seat who will actually act in our interests? How DO we get a bought-and-paid-for congress out of their seats when money runs unchecked through our politics?
I’ve been posting on the Jon Stewart 2028 thread. At least over there I get to dream that somebody might already be popular enough with the electorate to forgo the DNC’s king-making process. We’re in a bad way and not getting set up for success in the next cycle.
I mean, I voted for her, and would vote for her again any day if it meant voting against Trump, but he’s not wrong.
She’s not really unique in that aspect compared to any other mainstream Democrat vs any outsider or mainstream Republican, and that’s probably ~90% of the DNC’s problem when it comes to overcoming voter apathy.
Realistically, most people are not expecting Dems to refuse large donations, but accepting a donation should not mean that you then compromise your own values to accommodate 1% of voters on any issue. That’s not how a democracy is supposed to work. That’s just pay to play.
The big money on both sides is invested in the same places.
The rest follows from that.
Its so stupid to me that we’ve now reached the point that politicians don’t even pretend to be public servants anymore. They’re just paypigs doing whatever the money wants. Used to be, a campaign donation got you a “hi how are ya” and maybe a thank you card after the election. They sent you money and it was nice of them because you needed it.
Now with kamala, she got the largest grassroots fundraising of any candidate in history and what does she do? Listen to a bunch of rich fucks who gave the maximum contribution. I bet they all voted for Trump too. She’s either the most incompetent and gullible politician in american history or the dnc are fascist collaborators. The way she turned away from every popular idea she had makes it seem like she was told to lose. Im sure its been fucking great for her brother tho.
Bernie is correct as per usual.
If only being correct has value with society at large…
Maybe he should start a podcast. Seemed to have worked for the right.
Harris said on July 30 that she won’t run for California governor, leaving the door open for a potential 2028 presidential run.
Leaving the door open for her to run again or for someone else? How is being Governor relevant anyhow?
The door is open for her
As far as I know, one could be elected as California Governer in 26 and still legally run for president in 28, but it would be a lot, and open to attack for using CA as a stepping stone etc
Kamala not going for CA governor in 26 is being used as evidence for a 28 presidential run - it is kinda tenuous, but not completely out of nothing
Stepping stone? She already ran for president!
Harris & 95% or more of the democratic party. Outlaw money from politics - lobbying, campaign finance, PACs, political foundations (i.e. Heritage), all of it.
The DNC is committed to insider trading, corruption and AIPAC. In no way do they represent the interests of the majority. They are rewarded handsomely to play reluctant enabler in the political theater.
Unfortunate truth here. The modern dnc exists solely to enrich their donors.
I mean he is right
No doubt about it…
You mean when she changed her tune mid stride and went centrist?
Centrist? She campaigned with Cheney. That’s right wing.
She was at the center between fascism and conservatism.
She did that in 2020…
There was only a very very brief window she pretended to be slightly progressive, but it was an act everyone saw thru, and the dumbasses that were running the party till this year just threw her with Biden because they legitimately thought Black woman equals progressive vote.
Everyone held their noses for Biden because he was the only option, so they just tried to double down on it. It’s what happens when a party is corrupt, the people who rise to the top are the ones willing to do anything for donations, because that was the sole metric the old guard cared about.
If you could raise money for their shitty candidate, you got promoted. So we ended up with over a billion dollar campaign that was almost certainly a grift and a complete waste of money from state parties that handed trump the House.
Now, all that being said…
The voting members of the DNC did finally wake up and elected a chair who wouldn’t fight against the party’s own base. Martin ran Minnesota for a decade, made it solid blue, and home to some of our most progressive politicians and highschool football coach Tim Walz as governor.
If he’s a neoliberal bought off by billionaires and AIPAC, then he’s absolute dog shit at stopping progressives in primaries, and it’s completely illogical that he kept supporting them in the general.
We got an equal playing field for the first time since the 90s.
We just need to get people to show up in the primary. We can’t fucking waste this chance.
There were ~6 more progressive candidates and she did horribly. She saw the money on the other side and thought, “fuck it.”
Hopefully the playing field stays intact
Name one mainstream party in the current day world that isn’t being influenced by billionaires or their country-specific equivalents (if the country has no billionaires for instance)
Mario Party
Bowser (evil billionaire who owns multiple castles) has paid Nintendo big bucks to make games about him and include him into Mario Party.
Sorry but this is true
Some green parties considering all of their policies are conflicts of interests with billionaires?
They still heavily compromise, only targeting very specific sectors.
Besides, billionaires aren’t a monolith - they also have differing interests. Someone might have a heavy stake in solar power for instance and no stake in oil, in which case they’d support greens.
Greens in Australia do not take donations from corporations or property developers.
https://greens.org.au/campaigns/dirty-donations
They are the third largest party and hold balance of power in the Senate.
…. She would have been another bandaid. Just like Biden was. Out of everything that’s happening right now, why is this making the news?
This is the liberal media distraction from the Trump Epstein files. It gives us anything to read about that isn’t one of the 4 major dictators. Xi, Putin, Trump, or Netanyahu. Also allows the liberals to further balkanize into even smaller groups.
Now we’re just gonna bleed to death.
