A Gallup poll found the split between Republicans and Democrats about their satisfaction with the direction of the country was at its widest since 2001.
Those of us who do vote would especially like to see that outside our districts. Primary the useless ones and even if you hate the result, vote for the Democrat anyway in the general. Anything is better than the fucking ghouls in the Republican party. I’d literally rather vote for an actual ghoul if one promised to only eat the brains of Republicans.
Voting for an independent over a Democrat is the equivalent of pissing into the wind. Unless the Democrat eats human babies and the Republican votes for better gun control, you ignore the independents. If you can’t understand why then go watch some videos on game theory. Or math.
That’s not the root of the problem. You aren’t going to solve anything by berating voters. People who don’t feel heard don’t vote, or they shift towards fascism. Berating them just exacerbates the problem because it makes them feel even less heard. You aren’t helping.
Voters!? Nah, Nonvoters, and Fuck Them they enabled a nazi takeover of America, I don’t like living in a world too stupid to cut it as a Captain America screenplay.
Dumb asinine moronic jackasses, every one of them. If they haven’t learned their lesson yet, may they at least get aids and die.
A lot of people are rightfully angry that so many leftists opted out of voting against fascism. How was allowing a dictator to take charge supposed to teach the DNC a lesson? They wanted to burn the house down and now it’s burning with most of us stuck inside. I think it’s fair to call them morons.
And a lot of leftists are rightfully angry that so many liberals assume that leftists are somehow over-represented among the people who didn’t vote. There is absolutely no evidence to support that claim. All you have is a smattering of online noise makers that could just as well be influence ops. The following is a quote from a pew study in 2021.
Although they are one of the smallest political typology groups, Progressive Left are the most
politically engaged group in the Democratic coalition. No other group turned out to vote at a
higher rate in the 2020 general election, and those who did nearly unanimously voted for Joe
Biden. They donated money to campaigns in 2020 at a higher rate than any other Democratic-
oriented group.
Progressives are consistently the most reliable Democratic voting bloc, not to mention the most reliable small dollar donors. They also make up the lion’s share of the Democratic ground game which is - not coincidentally - about the only thing Democrats do right.
What you are doing is slander of the left and mindless parroting of establishment bullshit talking-points. You are also helping to perpetuate the establishment’s record of abject failure by giving them a scapegoat.
Where in my comment did I put the onus on progressives? I’m one of the progressives in that demographic, both in the way I voted and donated. I donated to every major progressive candidate in 2021. None of which live in my state. Not that I need to prove anything to you, internet random, just trying to point out how asinine your strawman is.
I said leftists because the left is a broad spectrum with varying beliefs. I’m fully aware that I’m basing my opinion on my own anecdotal evidence, but I’m not someone who only pays attention during the election and follows whatever the current group thought is. Most of the people I saw speaking out against voting were young leftists that were hung up on the US’ role in the genocide happening in Palestine, as if the US hasn’t been a major supporter of almost every imperialist/authoritarian country we’ve had dealings with basically since our inception… I wish people could be more realistic about this stuff. The choice was between more of the same neo-liberalist soft imperialism we’ve had since the early 90’s and outright fascism. By omitting their vote, a lot of young leftists chose outright fascism.
And where is your evidence that “so many leftists” were the problem? You could have said “so many people” or “so many Democrats”. No, you singled out one group to target. You have no more proof that it was “the left” then you would have had for “progressives”.
Not that I need to prove anything to you, internet random
then
Most of the people I saw speaking out against voting were young leftists
So, which is it? Are Internet randoms representative of something, or not?
I’m basing my opinion on my own anecdotal evidence
There is no such thing as anecdotal evidence.
young leftists that were hung up on the US’ role in the genocide happening in Palestine
Imagine that, getting hung up on a silly thing like genocide. Well, they voiced their apparent hang ups and the then-candidate called them anti-semites. If they didn’t vote for Harris, I blame Harris. The Democrats incessantly piss on the left then whine and moan every time they voice decent. It’s a fucking miracle that there hasn’t been a mass desertion of the Democrats by the left.
If you are still blaming voters and not the DNC, then you are the problem. Shit candidates get shit turnout. It’s that simple. No amount of blaming random groups of voters will change that, especially in the long run.
You could have said “so many people” or “so many Democrats”. No, you singled out one group to target.
Democrats are leftists. -.-
It’s a spectrum. Left to right. There’s a lot of groups along that spectrum. “Leftist” is the broadest, most general possible term to use to refer to various people among left leaning idealogies.
So, which is it? Are Internet randoms representative of something, or not?
You, Internet stranger, as an individual, are not representative of anything other than your clear intent to misunderstand everything I try to communicate to you.
There is no such thing as anecdotal evidence.
Hard disagree. Anecdotal evidence is the terminology we use to describe trends we personally see. It’s colored by your perception, obviously, which is why you shouldn’t give it the same weight as actual data, but you can absolutely use it to inform your own opinions (which should also be influenced be real factual evidence/data). To write it off completely is pretty silly, IMO.
I don’t disagree with some of the sentiment you share, and I absolutely agree that Democrat leadership has been failing Americans for a long long time, on many issues, but you’re not going to convince me that a bunch of left leaning people abstaining to vote wasn’t them not being able to see the forest through the trees. Obviously genocide is bad, but it’s worse now that we have an authoritarian in charge who not only wants to support the genocide, but wants to get in on it, maybe open a new resort location after they clear out all the rubble and bodies.
I feel like I’m trying to explain something that’s very obvious, at least to me, and getting nowhere. I guess just keep ignoring the consequences of not voting against a wannabe dictator. Some people can’t be helped.
GOOD.
EDIT: Maybe next time they’ll actually go out and vote.
Those of us who do vote would especially like to see that outside our districts. Primary the useless ones and even if you hate the result, vote for the Democrat anyway in the general. Anything is better than the fucking ghouls in the Republican party. I’d literally rather vote for an actual ghoul if one promised to only eat the brains of Republicans.
Agreed! VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO (UNLESS the Blue is someone the DNC DOESNT Like then you should vote INDEPENDENT No Matter Who!)!
Voting for an independent over a Democrat is the equivalent of pissing into the wind. Unless the Democrat eats human babies and the Republican votes for better gun control, you ignore the independents. If you can’t understand why then go watch some videos on game theory. Or math.
Wtf are you talking about?
many candidates, mamdani comes to mind
Vote Mamdani, wtf is wrong with you for considering a third party against Mamdani? Is support of Israel a crux issue for you or something?
learn to read kid, i’m saying the DNC is AGAINST Mamdani.
MAMDANI IS THE DNC.
PARTY LEADERSHIP INVITED HIM TO THE PRIMARY AND HE WON.
braindead
That’s not the root of the problem. You aren’t going to solve anything by berating voters. People who don’t feel heard don’t vote, or they shift towards fascism. Berating them just exacerbates the problem because it makes them feel even less heard. You aren’t helping.
Voters!? Nah, Nonvoters, and Fuck Them they enabled a nazi takeover of America, I don’t like living in a world too stupid to cut it as a Captain America screenplay.
Dumb asinine moronic jackasses, every one of them. If they haven’t learned their lesson yet, may they at least get aids and die.
You’re helping to create more of what you hate, and you call them dumb. Fascinating.
This is what the sycophants in the DNC are like, all of them. Bootlickers the lot of them
A lot of people are rightfully angry that so many leftists opted out of voting against fascism. How was allowing a dictator to take charge supposed to teach the DNC a lesson? They wanted to burn the house down and now it’s burning with most of us stuck inside. I think it’s fair to call them morons.
And a lot of leftists are rightfully angry that so many liberals assume that leftists are somehow over-represented among the people who didn’t vote. There is absolutely no evidence to support that claim. All you have is a smattering of online noise makers that could just as well be influence ops. The following is a quote from a pew study in 2021.
Progressives are consistently the most reliable Democratic voting bloc, not to mention the most reliable small dollar donors. They also make up the lion’s share of the Democratic ground game which is - not coincidentally - about the only thing Democrats do right.
What you are doing is slander of the left and mindless parroting of establishment bullshit talking-points. You are also helping to perpetuate the establishment’s record of abject failure by giving them a scapegoat.
Where in my comment did I put the onus on progressives? I’m one of the progressives in that demographic, both in the way I voted and donated. I donated to every major progressive candidate in 2021. None of which live in my state. Not that I need to prove anything to you, internet random, just trying to point out how asinine your strawman is.
I said leftists because the left is a broad spectrum with varying beliefs. I’m fully aware that I’m basing my opinion on my own anecdotal evidence, but I’m not someone who only pays attention during the election and follows whatever the current group thought is. Most of the people I saw speaking out against voting were young leftists that were hung up on the US’ role in the genocide happening in Palestine, as if the US hasn’t been a major supporter of almost every imperialist/authoritarian country we’ve had dealings with basically since our inception… I wish people could be more realistic about this stuff. The choice was between more of the same neo-liberalist soft imperialism we’ve had since the early 90’s and outright fascism. By omitting their vote, a lot of young leftists chose outright fascism.
And where is your evidence that “so many leftists” were the problem? You could have said “so many people” or “so many Democrats”. No, you singled out one group to target. You have no more proof that it was “the left” then you would have had for “progressives”.
then
So, which is it? Are Internet randoms representative of something, or not?
There is no such thing as anecdotal evidence.
Imagine that, getting hung up on a silly thing like genocide. Well, they voiced their apparent hang ups and the then-candidate called them anti-semites. If they didn’t vote for Harris, I blame Harris. The Democrats incessantly piss on the left then whine and moan every time they voice decent. It’s a fucking miracle that there hasn’t been a mass desertion of the Democrats by the left.
If you are still blaming voters and not the DNC, then you are the problem. Shit candidates get shit turnout. It’s that simple. No amount of blaming random groups of voters will change that, especially in the long run.
Democrats are leftists. -.-
It’s a spectrum. Left to right. There’s a lot of groups along that spectrum. “Leftist” is the broadest, most general possible term to use to refer to various people among left leaning idealogies.
You, Internet stranger, as an individual, are not representative of anything other than your clear intent to misunderstand everything I try to communicate to you.
Hard disagree. Anecdotal evidence is the terminology we use to describe trends we personally see. It’s colored by your perception, obviously, which is why you shouldn’t give it the same weight as actual data, but you can absolutely use it to inform your own opinions (which should also be influenced be real factual evidence/data). To write it off completely is pretty silly, IMO.
I don’t disagree with some of the sentiment you share, and I absolutely agree that Democrat leadership has been failing Americans for a long long time, on many issues, but you’re not going to convince me that a bunch of left leaning people abstaining to vote wasn’t them not being able to see the forest through the trees. Obviously genocide is bad, but it’s worse now that we have an authoritarian in charge who not only wants to support the genocide, but wants to get in on it, maybe open a new resort location after they clear out all the rubble and bodies.
I feel like I’m trying to explain something that’s very obvious, at least to me, and getting nowhere. I guess just keep ignoring the consequences of not voting against a wannabe dictator. Some people can’t be helped.
Lmao
Happy to vote in a primary and not have a candidate coronated by the party heads yet again
Primary results are decided by number of votes.
Candidates you liked were invited to participate in the primary by the party heads.
K. Happy to have a primary to decide the will of the voters and who they would like to be the nominee instead of a coronation by the crooks in the DNC