With just over 24 hours before the government is set to shutdown, Donald Trump and congressional leaders from both parties emerged from a high-stakes White House meeting on Monday with no agreement, setting the stage for large swaths of the federal government to close after midnight Wednesday.
The impasse came after closed-door talks between the four top congressional leaders and Trump in the Oval Office, where lawmakers appeared to trade blame but make little progress towards a deal. “There are still large differences between us,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters after the meeting, claiming that Republicans refused to engage on their core demands around health care and restoring previous funding cuts.
“Their bill has not one iota of Democratic input,” he added, taking aim at a House-passed seven-week stopgap funding bill that Senate Democrats rejected last week. “That is never how we’ve done this before.”
Trump wants this shutdown. He was never gonna deal.
It’s a budget, he needs 50 votes and there’s 53 senators with a R by their names…
If there’s a shutdown it’s cuz trump ordered it.
Schumer “negotiating” just makes it easier for idiots to blame it on Dems.
Mainstream media at large is acting like budget reconciliation isn’t a thing…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)
trump doesn’t need a single D vote in the House or Senate to pass a budget, he just doesn’t want to
This is a funding bill, which is different than the budget/reconciliation process. He needs 60 votes.
You think “budget reconciliation” which was literally invented to make sure a budget is passed…
Doesn’t apply to the annual budget, which has been passed by budget reconciliation for like a decade straight?
Budget reconciliation is the bill of sale, the funding measure is the credit card. They need 60 votes to get the credit card to pay the bill. This is the only negotiation tactic the dems have in their possession. That’s why they are making their bones on the ACA funding. Tens of millions of Americans rely upon those subsidies to afford health insurance. The dems just have to make sure that the people know what’s at stake. A job they are notoriously bad at.
Majority in House but 60 votes in Senate are needed to avoid a filibuster, which will require some Democrats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)
But I mean, I literally quoted it last time and you still somehow missed it, so i guess it’s on me if I get the same result…
This is them passing the funding , it wouldn’t be a reconciliation bill.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/13/politics/budget-resolution-reconciliation-spending-bills-explainer
Did you and 14 other people just not read that?
It’s literally about how budget reconciliation can only be used for budget related bills…
And the fucking annual budget is pretty obviously budget related
From the link I provided
My understanding is that the budget resolution needs to pass before there can be a reconciliation bill.
Either way, if it really just required 50 votes, they would have done it already.
That’s about as wrong as you can be…
Budget reconciliation was invented specifically for the budget… The Byrd rule is what is (hypothetically) used to prevent it being used for non budgetary bills.
Like, it’s impressive you’re able to be so completely and utterly wrong about this, unfortunately a lot of people also don’t understand. Most likely because you’re all still just listening to CNN and other billionaire owned media conglomerates instead of just looking it up.
Newsflash:
Billionaires care more about money than people. They’re fine with a government shutdown and trump as long as profits go up.
They will lie to you
Wasn’t that what they passed in July?
All the more reason to use it once the new fiscal year starts…
If Schumer caves, they can abuse the rule and pass something 1000x times shittier under reconciliation.
They were able to pass that a few months ago, because they didn’t use reconciliation for last year’s budget, it was just a CR all year
Which is likely what will happen again, and why Schumer would be a giant fucking idiot to negotiate just so Republicans don’t have to use it.
Like, good point, but it just brings us full circle.
Quick edit:
Because Senate can use reconciliation once a fiscal year
Is that simply a senate rule that can be bypassed with a simple majority?
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No he doesn’t. He needs to pay ICE agents. He needs the government to stay open.
Shutting the government down and keeping it shut down inhibits his ability to progress with fascism.
Shut the government down and what happens to the soldiers deployed to US streets?
No. Shut it the fuck down. Its idiotic to allow it to stay open.
I know some things continue to operate no matter what. I don’t remember if ICE do. I’m sure border patrol continues to operate to some extent, but I have no idea to what degree. The same for the military. They still continue to some degree, but they have to scale down what jobs get done.
This is a long way to say, yes. I agree with you. However, it won’t stop totally.
Don’t worry, the generals are there to step in and take over any dept Trump deems necessary.
They have the majority. Should have told them to make a deal with themselves if they actually give a shit.
But controlled opposition, doing controlled opposition things, to maintain the illusion of democracy.