• Jesus@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    The only way to defeat us is if the Trump administration and the movement that undergirds it manages to divide us. We can’t let that happen. To win as a majority coalition, we must always invite everybody who believes in civil liberties and human rights.

    Agreed. The purity testing and splintering into to niche issues is what always screws the left.

    If people could just focus and align on some core root cause issues, like getting corrupt money out of politics, the message would be stronger.

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      All well and good, but what happens when someone comes to the meeting and says “we should end corruption and remove Trump, but I don’t like DEI policies.”

      I’m guessing that will suddenly be added to the “root” cause and we’re right back into splintering and purity spirals again.

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        I’m guessing that will suddenly be added to the “root” cause

        Hopefully yes, because that’s exactly what it is. You can’t fight fascism with fascism lite.

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            You… you think racism and xenophobia aren’t a root cause of this? If so, you should read a history book. Start from Nixon.

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              And here we go, a disagreement over policy balloons instantly into “racism and xenophobia” and an ally gets kicked out of the meeting because everything is black or white and no compromise is possible.

              I find DEI policies to be a complicated topic, personally. I don’t oppose the basic idea and motive behind them, but I think they’ve been implemented poorly and often turn into discrimination in their own right. Am I now classed as “Trump supporter” in your eyes? I’ve been called a Trump supporter because I don’t like the recent Star Wars movies, so I’m sure a lot of people would indeed lump me in with him on that basis. And thus is proven the basic point about how Trump’s opponents are destroying themselves without Trump’s supporters having to lift a finger.

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                I honestly don’t think dei did shit one way or another and was all just a show. That being said I agree. Lets all get behind the constitution including all the bill of rights and argue about the other things once we have enough rights to do so in a civilized manner.