Just want to chime in and say that my mom and her friends were just in Canada and they said the people there totally understand that half of America is against Trump and everything he stands for and don’t blame all Americans at all, but they feel they have to punish the country for electing him nonetheless.
To me, this means that 185 million people, with the exception of a small percentage, didn’t care, or was fine with whatever, making them complicit.
In addition to that, 77 million voters, voted for Trump.
So 262 million Americans either voted for Trump or were complicit in the decision that was made by their countrymen. That’s a whopping 77% of Americans either asked for this or they were completely fine with it if this was the outcome.
So yeah. There’s some Americans, about 23% that tried, at least… The rest of the Americans are either complicit or wanted this… And as a Canadian, that 77% is why I’m actively avoiding American made goods, and I will continue to do so, regardless of tariffs, for the next few years… I’ll probably stop around 2029 or so… We’ll see how things go from there…
Rather than argue over that detail the point is it doesn’t make sense to blame the entire population and turn it into more apathetic voters than voters. Our numbers are bad enough on their own, thanks
That is completely true. Even the ones who don’t like this are just saying “Aw drats! I guess we just have to vote harder next time!” Without actually examining why we lost in the first place or any systemic issues that led to this.
Well, if that’s the case, that’s a shame, as it simply means Canadians are having an emotional over-reaction to the situation and it’s biasing them into blaming an entire group for only part of that group’s actions.
I suspect some Canadians see it the way you describe and others see it the way my Mom described. I’d be interested to know if there’s any correlation with political alignment.
Perhaps, but I’m not going to debate or engage in that conversation. Just letting you know that your report from somebody else’s experience is not reflective
Opinions are diversified, like anything else. It’s difficult to generalize. My brother in law lives in a small town, doesn’t speak English, and is a Trump supporter. But for me, I think at least half the US population voted for this. They are lacking education and as much as it’s difficult to blame people for being manipulated, at some point, I can also see them as very naive and gullible. I’m not blaming all the population of the US, but there’s a significant chunk of it that holds part of the blame.
AFAIK it’s also why some states were hit harder than others by the boycott, because Canadians targeted the red states first. And for the rest, you know, “collateral damage”. Sorry.
Also, you try not to have an “emotional over-reaction” when your country is threatened to be annexed or invaded. If Xi from China said a few times, just jokingly, that the US should be part of China, and that a few other Chinese politicians started to push the idea of annexing or invading the US too, I don’t think most Unitedstaters would see the Chinese government, and a part of those people pushing for this, with a neutral view.
Also, you try not to have an “emotional over-reaction” when your country is threatened to be annexed or invaded.
I understand the response, but it’s still biased and wrong. Don’t think angry Canadians don’t have my empathy—I’d be pissed for a few days too, probably. But it’s important to not let your emotions cloud your thinking and your judgment. To the extent that angry Canadians blame the entire U.S. population for Trump, while understandable in a certain light, they’re still wrong.
Just want to chime in and say that my mom and her friends were just in Canada and they said the people there totally understand that half of America is against Trump and everything he stands for and don’t blame all Americans at all, but they feel they have to punish the country for electing him nonetheless.
Totally reasonable IMO.
I moved from NY to Canada and have only felt welcomed by everyone. I absolutely love it here and have no desire to return.
The desire to reduce reliance on the US is very real. There’s a strong movement to shop local, which I do love. Canada has better food anyways.
One of us! One of us! One of us!
Welcome to the neighborhood bud.
I hope you’re having a grand time here in the great white north. We’re happy to have you. 🍁
I’m sorry to tell you that’s not really true.
The general attitude in Canada is that most Americans are complicit, uneducated, unprincipled, and themselves guilty.
155 of 340 million Americans voted.
To me, this means that 185 million people, with the exception of a small percentage, didn’t care, or was fine with whatever, making them complicit.
In addition to that, 77 million voters, voted for Trump.
So 262 million Americans either voted for Trump or were complicit in the decision that was made by their countrymen. That’s a whopping 77% of Americans either asked for this or they were completely fine with it if this was the outcome.
So yeah. There’s some Americans, about 23% that tried, at least… The rest of the Americans are either complicit or wanted this… And as a Canadian, that 77% is why I’m actively avoiding American made goods, and I will continue to do so, regardless of tariffs, for the next few years… I’ll probably stop around 2029 or so… We’ll see how things go from there…
ChatGPT says the voting age population is 258m
That doesn’t make it better.
Also chat GPT is hardly a source of good information.
Stop asking chat GPT to do everything and think for yourself.
I say it’s 270 million.
Rather than argue over that detail the point is it doesn’t make sense to blame the entire population and turn it into more apathetic voters than voters. Our numbers are bad enough on their own, thanks
That is completely true. Even the ones who don’t like this are just saying “Aw drats! I guess we just have to vote harder next time!” Without actually examining why we lost in the first place or any systemic issues that led to this.
Well, if that’s the case, that’s a shame, as it simply means Canadians are having an emotional over-reaction to the situation and it’s biasing them into blaming an entire group for only part of that group’s actions.
I suspect some Canadians see it the way you describe and others see it the way my Mom described. I’d be interested to know if there’s any correlation with political alignment.
Perhaps, but I’m not going to debate or engage in that conversation. Just letting you know that your report from somebody else’s experience is not reflective
Opinions are diversified, like anything else. It’s difficult to generalize. My brother in law lives in a small town, doesn’t speak English, and is a Trump supporter. But for me, I think at least half the US population voted for this. They are lacking education and as much as it’s difficult to blame people for being manipulated, at some point, I can also see them as very naive and gullible. I’m not blaming all the population of the US, but there’s a significant chunk of it that holds part of the blame.
AFAIK it’s also why some states were hit harder than others by the boycott, because Canadians targeted the red states first. And for the rest, you know, “collateral damage”. Sorry.
Also, you try not to have an “emotional over-reaction” when your country is threatened to be annexed or invaded. If Xi from China said a few times, just jokingly, that the US should be part of China, and that a few other Chinese politicians started to push the idea of annexing or invading the US too, I don’t think most Unitedstaters would see the Chinese government, and a part of those people pushing for this, with a neutral view.
I understand the response, but it’s still biased and wrong. Don’t think angry Canadians don’t have my empathy—I’d be pissed for a few days too, probably. But it’s important to not let your emotions cloud your thinking and your judgment. To the extent that angry Canadians blame the entire U.S. population for Trump, while understandable in a certain light, they’re still wrong.