Right it’s not like anyone ever has car trouble and the road is always free of obstacles and animals!
It’s exactly like the oil pipeline people. “It’s perfectly safe unless it leaks” but they always leak!! That’s just a fact of life!
“Any road where people are doing 55 shouldn’t have pedestrians on cyclists “
Lots of roads are 55 and have sidewalks.
Hell I got a perfect example. I know one road near the airport that’s 60 until about 100 yards from the school zone where it drops to 20 then picks back up. No one slows down. They blast 70 straight thru (people add 10mph to every posted sign around here because the cops “won’t pull you over for just going a little over”)
So my question to you… on that road what is the safe solution? Should cars slow down and risk a wreck that way? Blast thru the school crosswalk going 70? Or do we need to just close the school and move it away from all those important drivers in a hurry?
Go the speed limit. Safety laws are written in blood buddy. They exist because people kept dying.
lol do you really think that’s some kind of rebuttal?
Let’s break it down. Essentially:
“We can’t ticket everyone”
“Yes we can”
“But we don’t like to get tickets so we vote against tickets. Therefore you can’t do the reasonable things leaving our solution of speeding as the only option! so check and mate!”
It’s impossible because you want to keep it impossible, so you can say it’s impossible, so your idea of just speeding all the time is the only way.
In my town murder is perfectly fine. Every time someone tries to make a law changing that we just murder them. So murdering people is the only reasonable solution.
Btw you mentioned one of the deer and one of the car crashes. That means you are at least up to 4 on your body shop count. I once again have 0 wrecks.
You talk about shitty drivers but it’s you bro. You speed everywhere and keep getting in wrecks that’s are “totally not your fualt“
If you’re going to eat a hamburger eat the hell out of it
If you want to speed because you want to just say that. “Fuck you’re safety I’m in a hurry”
Don’t try to convince me it’s actually YOU who is the safe driver when you keep getting in wrecks.
I highly doubt it’ll go smoothly. IMO what will happen is driving standards will rise, driving tests will become extremely tough and need to be repeated every few years, and self driving tech will get cheaper and most people will just summon cars like Waymo rather than bothering to remain liscensed. There will have to be an offramp, not a firm cutoff.
Nope. We’ve already established you guys will never accept any steps to safety without throwing a fit.
It’s “go big or go home”. We’ll push hard and fast because we’ll get the same pushback regardless of how small the change. So change big.
How it’ll actually go is trucking will be taken over by automatic driving because it’s cheaper. The reduction in traffic and increase in safety will be seen and immediately we’ll push for a driving ban. You’ll probably get 3-5 years to retrofit your car or buy a knew one… then that’s it. No more dangerous drivers, no more traffic…
And yes people will probably ditch private car ownership in exchange for self driving free busses and cheap taxis.
Children will be able to walk to school safely finally.
The moment self driving cars are safe enough we are going to ban human drivers entirely
Naw. Too many people like driving, too many emergency situations that require a human. The most that will reasonably happen is people will prefer self-driving and driving test requirements will increase somewhat.
We very rarely ban old things, we mostly just convince people to use new things.
Want to know what I like? Cocaine. Lots of people loved cocaine. They banned it.
People threw a fit when they made drunk driving illegal too. They still made it illegal.
People loved asbestos as well, they banned that.
You can’t even sell milk directly from a cow in most states because of the dangers. Raw milk is banned.
People are fighting tooth in nail to try to re-legalize weed lol and it’s a huge uphill battle.
We ban old things all the time regardless of how well liked they are.
“Too many emergency situations require a human” not really as it would relate to driving… computers have much faster reflexes than a human. They will drive better. So what emergency are you thinking of? Car breaking down? Most people can’t fix thier own car anyway. The only change will be the car calling a tow truck instead of you.
“Between cars”
Right it’s not like anyone ever has car trouble and the road is always free of obstacles and animals!
It’s exactly like the oil pipeline people. “It’s perfectly safe unless it leaks” but they always leak!! That’s just a fact of life!
“Any road where people are doing 55 shouldn’t have pedestrians on cyclists “
Lots of roads are 55 and have sidewalks.
Hell I got a perfect example. I know one road near the airport that’s 60 until about 100 yards from the school zone where it drops to 20 then picks back up. No one slows down. They blast 70 straight thru (people add 10mph to every posted sign around here because the cops “won’t pull you over for just going a little over”)
So my question to you… on that road what is the safe solution? Should cars slow down and risk a wreck that way? Blast thru the school crosswalk going 70? Or do we need to just close the school and move it away from all those important drivers in a hurry?
Go the speed limit. Safety laws are written in blood buddy. They exist because people kept dying.
Bad road design is an entirely different problem.
And I’ve got a question for you: it’s rush hour and everyone is doing 70 in a 55. How do you enforce this? Pull everyone over?
“Pull everyone over “
I love how you phrase that like it’s some ridiculous impossibility lol.
Speed cameras. Send them all a ticket.
“Bad road design is a different problem”
Yeah just like crashing is a different problem lol.
“It’s not my fault that orphanage was flammable! I just like playing with fireworks! They should build better orphanages.
Then why haven’t they put speed cameras everywhere?
Because a local government wouldn’t last an election cycle if they did that.
lol do you really think that’s some kind of rebuttal?
Let’s break it down. Essentially:
“We can’t ticket everyone”
“Yes we can”
“But we don’t like to get tickets so we vote against tickets. Therefore you can’t do the reasonable things leaving our solution of speeding as the only option! so check and mate!”
It’s impossible because you want to keep it impossible, so you can say it’s impossible, so your idea of just speeding all the time is the only way.
If you can find an electorate who’d be okay with this you might have a point.
Those cameras would come down in like a month, what few a local government could afford to put up, anyway.
They could do this easily on major highways and yet they haven’t yet, precisely because the local government knows it would be electoral suicide.
A better solution would be pace cars that drive the speed limit with big gates so nobody can go around them. Then people literally can’t speed.
In my town murder is perfectly fine. Every time someone tries to make a law changing that we just murder them. So murdering people is the only reasonable solution.
Btw you mentioned one of the deer and one of the car crashes. That means you are at least up to 4 on your body shop count. I once again have 0 wrecks.
You talk about shitty drivers but it’s you bro. You speed everywhere and keep getting in wrecks that’s are “totally not your fualt“
If you’re going to eat a hamburger eat the hell out of it
If you want to speed because you want to just say that. “Fuck you’re safety I’m in a hurry”
Don’t try to convince me it’s actually YOU who is the safe driver when you keep getting in wrecks.
Btw we aren’t going to waste our time pushing for more speed cameras lol we are going to sit and wait and gather our energy.
The moment self driving cars are safe enough we are going to ban human drivers entirely, because humans suck at driving cars.
That’s the future for you guys. You flat out refuse to drive safely so we just won’t let you drive at all.
Yeeees, another thing Tesla and Google can fully control in our lives! Hurray!
I never said Tesla or google. Only self driving cars. Tesla didn’t invent the concept nor do they own it.
then don’t get involved with self driving cars. Just walk, problem solved.
companies are a thing. It’s who we buy stuff from. You’re going to have to get used to that.
I highly doubt it’ll go smoothly. IMO what will happen is driving standards will rise, driving tests will become extremely tough and need to be repeated every few years, and self driving tech will get cheaper and most people will just summon cars like Waymo rather than bothering to remain liscensed. There will have to be an offramp, not a firm cutoff.
Driving isn’t going smoothly now. Nothing ever goes smoothly.
“Driving standards will rise yada yada”
Nope. We’ve already established you guys will never accept any steps to safety without throwing a fit.
It’s “go big or go home”. We’ll push hard and fast because we’ll get the same pushback regardless of how small the change. So change big.
How it’ll actually go is trucking will be taken over by automatic driving because it’s cheaper. The reduction in traffic and increase in safety will be seen and immediately we’ll push for a driving ban. You’ll probably get 3-5 years to retrofit your car or buy a knew one… then that’s it. No more dangerous drivers, no more traffic…
And yes people will probably ditch private car ownership in exchange for self driving free busses and cheap taxis.
Children will be able to walk to school safely finally.
Naw. Too many people like driving, too many emergency situations that require a human. The most that will reasonably happen is people will prefer self-driving and driving test requirements will increase somewhat.
We very rarely ban old things, we mostly just convince people to use new things.
We ban dangerous things people like all the time.
Want to know what I like? Cocaine. Lots of people loved cocaine. They banned it.
People threw a fit when they made drunk driving illegal too. They still made it illegal.
People loved asbestos as well, they banned that.
You can’t even sell milk directly from a cow in most states because of the dangers. Raw milk is banned.
People are fighting tooth in nail to try to re-legalize weed lol and it’s a huge uphill battle.
We ban old things all the time regardless of how well liked they are.
“Too many emergency situations require a human” not really as it would relate to driving… computers have much faster reflexes than a human. They will drive better. So what emergency are you thinking of? Car breaking down? Most people can’t fix thier own car anyway. The only change will be the car calling a tow truck instead of you.