• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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    18 hours ago

    So, it’s either healthcare subsidies or food? You can’t have both? Even though we had both before Republicans took it all away, so they could give tax breaks to Trump’s rich donors?

    Fuck these assholes.

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      18 hours ago

      It’s also a bit of PR nightmare for the GOP. Trump defying the court order shifts the blame back onto them.

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        17 hours ago

        In a less polarized and post truth world you’d probably be right. I fear however that the solid 36-37% maga base will never find an issue that can’t be spun or rationalized. In the magasphere this situation seems to be framed as the GOP stepping up to fight against free health care for illegal immigrants which seems divorced from reality.

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          In a less polarized and post truth world you’d probably be right. I fear however that the solid 36-37% maga base will never find an issue that can’t be spun or rationalized.

          It’s not an accident…

          When Nixon resigned, Roger Ailes wrote a memo that accidentally ended up in the icon presidential library:

          The memo – called, simply enough, “A Plan For Putting the GOP on TV News” – is included in a 318-page cache of documents detailing [Roger] Ailes’ work for both the Nixon and George H.W. Bush administrations that we obtained from the Nixon and Bush presidential libraries. Through his firms REA Productions and Ailes Communications, Inc., Ailes served as paid consultant to both presidents in the 1970s and 1990s, offering detailed and shrewd advice ranging from what ties to wear to how to keep the pressure up on Saddam Hussein in the run-up to the first Gulf War.

          The memo explains why television was the way to go:

          Today television news is watched more often than people read newspapers, than people listen to the radio, than people read or gather any other form of communication. The reason: People are lazy. With television you just sit—watch—listen. The thinking is done for you.

          https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2011/memo-from-1970-a-plan-for-putting-the-gop-on-tv-news/

          They knew that if they owned the media, they could control what people thought, and no republican president would ever have to resign due to public outcry again.

          Luckily, he was held back by federal regulations, until a good ole capitalist from Arkansas got elected and decided anyone should be able to own media in America:

          The stated intention of the law was to “let anyone enter any communications business – to let any communications business compete in any market against any other.”[5] In practice, it gave way to one of the largest consolidations of the telecommunications sector in history - as such, it is often described as an attempt to deregulate the American broadcasting and telecommunications markets due to technological convergence.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996

          After that it was gloves off and the billionaires gobbled up every aspect of the “news” industry and maintain almost exclusive control over what a majority of Americans hear.

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            16 hours ago

            TBF, the problem with media was well underway before Clinton came along. The Fairness Doctrine being done away with under Ronnie Raygun opened the floodgates.

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          Trump is posting on social media that Biden’s administration was just giving SNAP benefits away. His idiot supporters are gonna believe it.

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          Yeah, but most of the hardcore maga base is going to die within 10 years, but waaaayyyy sooner if Trump keeps cutting snap and Medicaid. Then you’ll be left with the few capable white supremacist MAGAts, and a lot of out of shape brainwashed dipshits who will either scatter into the shadows or fall in line and shut the fuck up real quick

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        17 hours ago

        I think by saying he’ll defy a court order, he’s letting the supreme court know they have to okay whatever bullshit he comes up with. Otherwise, it will become obvious that they can’t do jack shit.

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      16 hours ago

      If the government can’t afford to feed and heal the people, they shouldn’t be building a ballroom. I was taught in school to pay for your needs before your wants.

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        15 hours ago

        But the ballroom is all being paid for by the people who are hoping Trump will do them favors. So, that makes it none of our business.

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      17 hours ago

      In the end it’s going to be neither. Because once you give way on one front, it is proven that you’ll negotiate.

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      Use open secrets dort org. You can find the shitbags in your area that gave 5k, 10k, 20k, 50k+ directly to the trump campaign. Not a general Republican PAC, but directly to HIS campaign. You can then cross reference those names with county property records. Then you can engage in civil political discourse with those people

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      17 hours ago

      I feel like dems should add to their list of demands- if the Rs dont agree to reverse course on Healthcare now, dems will not agree to reopen until all missed snap benefits are paid back retroactively- if it goes another week, they will not vote until ice is fully refunded, etc