California Governor Gavin Newsom holds an early edge over Vice President JD Vance among young male voters for the 2028 presidency, according to new polling from a Republican-affiliated firm.

The latest League of American Workers/TIPP survey, conducted October 22-28, shows that among young men, 38 percent would vote for Newsom compared to 33 percent for Vance.

The findings suggest that Newsom—a prominent Democratic voice—continues to outperform expectations with a demographic that has trended toward the GOP in recent years. The results come amid renewed debate within both parties over how to win back young men, a group increasingly seen as pivotal to future national elections.

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    1 day ago

    Call it dumb, but Newsom is one candidate that voting for would violate my moral code. If it’s Newsom vs Trump or Newsom vs Vance, I am staying home.

    I am literally begging democrats to run someone I can vote for. Doesn’t have to be a good candidate, just has to be someone that’s not Newsom

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      15 hours ago

      No, that’s a great point of view. If someone offers you 40% of what you want, and the other person offers you 0%, and wants you to become a slave, the only natural choice is to not support either of them, because you can’t get 100% of what you want…

      As I say at work fairly often, the chances of something going from a state of complete disarray to complete perfection, overnight, is essentially zero. But even if you go from 1% of what you want to 2%, that’s still an order of magnitude better than the status quo.

      When faced with a choice of no improvement, or slight improvement, it hardly ever makes sense to choose no improvement, unless there’s some massive cost involved for a barely noticable gain.

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      I defo think we should run AOC over Newsom. That said, people staying home because voting for the lesser of two evils “violated their moral code” is how we ended up in our current situation. It is unbelievably selfish to prefer to say “at least my hands are clean” as the world grows drastically darker due to your inaction. I really hope we get to vote for AOC in 2028, but if we don’t, then I am begging you to do some reflection and change your attitude.

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        It’s strange to me that we’re agitating for voters to change and not our leaders. It’s fewer people you have to convince.

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          We’re doing both. Mamdani and the new DNC leadership are proof of this. Please don’t turn this into a false dichotomy; voter apathy still needs to be challenged at every turn, along with demanding better of our leadership.

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        15 hours ago

        AOC with a Bernie VP could win. With just AOC, your going to have a bunch of neolibs that will just sit out because they don’t want to vote for a woman. It’s fucking stupid, and counter productive, but it’s true.

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        It’s not lesser of the two evils for me. Newsom strikes me as a smarter Trump seen through a Democratic curtain instead of a Republican one.

        Voting for Biden and Harris were voting for the lesser of the two evils. Voting for Newsom is not. That’s how strongly I feel about Newsom.

        While I would enthusiastically vote for AOC, it doesn’t have to be AOC to get my vote. Hell, id vote Whitmer - and she gives me slimy vibes.

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            Get ready for a lot more of it when the elections come around. This place will be crawling with that bullshit again.

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              Hey, maybe he’s a true believer that just drank all the astroturf flavored Kool-aid.

              Newsom is also not my preferred candidate. Yeah, it might lower enthusiasm and cause people to stay home, aka the opposite of Mamdami. But I’m not going to go tell my friends and everyone on the Internet not to vote because of it.

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                21 hours ago

                Yep, not my preferred either. Not even close. Primary is a bit away so it’s absolutely fair to criticize right now. But the whole don’t vote thing… yeah fuck that.

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            23 hours ago

            I looked that up. I’m not representing other people or claiming that this will be a movement. If they run Newsom, they will lose my vote. If that doesn’t matter to them, so be it.

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        1 day ago

        There are Democrats not named Newsom.

        If Democrats choose to run him anyway, then I guess we’ll have President Vance, yes.

        This is the same stupid logic that got us Kavanaugh. There has to be more than one eligible person, yet they insist on pushing one of the worst possible candidates.

        Are you saying Newsom is the last standing Democrat available to run for President? Because I disagree.