“How absolutely pathetic,” declared the Justice Democrats, an advocacy group that focuses on assisting progressive challengers willing to take on more establishment lawmakers in office. “Your voters expect you to hold the line for their basic healthcare and food benefits. This is just surrender. Every Senate Democrat that joined Republicans to pass this sold the American people out and we should make sure they have no future in public office.”
“Let’s be clear — this proposal isn’t a compromise, it’s a capitulation,” said Rep. Jonathan L. Jackson (D-Ill.). “Millions [will] lose their health coverage, and millions more [will] face skyrocketing premiums. The Senate should reject this misguided plan. In the House, my vote will be HELL NO.”
The Democratic Party is dead and liberal centrism is an obstacle to progress, the DNC is not a bulwark against fascism it is a tacit and cowardly endorsement of it.
Democrats just condemned ~50,000 US citizens to death every year, let that sink in…
According to the report, premiums for Americans who buy their own health insurance will double on average next year, while 15 million people are expected to lose coverage as a result of the Republican budget. The report details how the cuts would substantially increase the number of uninsured Americans in every state in the country and double the uninsured rate in some states, including Massachusetts and Louisiana. A study from Yale University and the University of Pennsylvania estimates that the cuts could cause more than 50,000 unnecessary deaths every year.
The report includes dozens of firsthand accounts from Americans facing life-threatening consequences:
how long should they hold out? until republicans cave or the the inevitable regime change. what’s the point of holding out for any period of time if you’re going to cave eventually? this was literally the only leverage they had. now they have signalled that they don’t stand for anything and republicans never need to negotiate on anything ever again.
They drew attention to the issue. Now everybody will be watching this vote.
In your scenario, premiums will still go up! Only everybody else would be negative impacted by the shutdown as well.
what is this cope dude. they held for 40 days and got zilch. drew attention to what, the fact that they can literally do nothing, like absolutely nothing of value at all, in any circumstance? mission accomplished if that was the goal.
also raise whose awareness? who’s gonna do anything? it’s their job to do things in congress; whose awareness is gonna make a change? what are the newly aware people supposed to do now? storm the capitol?
People on here act like shutting the government down is some magic path to get anything you want.
If you look at all the previous government shutdowns the only thing that is ever really gained is one party is blamed and the other party is not. It is a political spectacle, and that’s all anybody should expect from it.
Did they get zilch? The only way to tell is by looking at polling numbers. If the democrats are seen as more popular and republican seen as less popular, then that’s literally the best case scenario from a government shutdown.
yes, so why quit? this is snatching an L from a win-win situation: by holding out they were either gonna force republicans to cave and get what they want, which would allow them to brag about bringing the party in power to their knees for the good of the people, making the republicans look weak af, or they would not cave but prolong this shutdown which makes republicans less popular every minute and allow dems to run on it every election going forward.
this was the worst possible outcome.
My guess is they have internal polling that showed people were going to start turning against them.
Worst possible outcome is people blamed democrats and not republicans. As government shutdowns go, this is probably literally the best possible outcome for democrats.
oh i forgot they’re just passive observers to what people think about who to blame. it’s not like any of them have access to the media or a microphone or anything. if internal poll showed that; that only proves this is a massive messaging disaster from the democrats.
You do realize that politicians use internal polling to understand how effective their strategies are, right? It’s not the only thing they use, but it’s a big part of it.
Lol just a little too optimistic and not really grounded in the current political climate.
I am more optimistic than I should be.
Honestly, I just think people on here have unrealistic expectations though. Keeping the government shutdown forever will not accomplish anything more than it already has.
It raised the profile of the issue. Republicans have been blamed. Trump’s approval rating kept going down. Only thing left was for Democrats to start losing support, which I believe the leadership saw coming.
Republicans have already shown they don’t care about the pain and suffering caused by the shutdown. Trump was pushing them to end the filibuster. Imagine if they were to go that route.
So you support the Democrats Susan G Komen approach to government? Raise miney to pay for staffers and beurocrats and then give pennies to you actual mission?
Huh?
Susan B Komen would raise a ton of money for breast cancer. But wouldn’t actually spend any money towards helping with the cause. They spent money just to market themselves and “raise awareness” and only contributed around 15% of total funds towards the actual cause.
The poster was criticizing the approach of “raising awareness” for this.
I would also agree that raising awareness doesn’t really do anything when the current regime runs slapdash to laws and norms. You need to clamp down and do everything to resist. Not just sit and pray voters get a chance to make it better when the current regime has been televising they’re gonna do everything they can to limit and prevent voting.
That makes sense. The typos didn’t help me understand…
Raising awareness is literally politics, through. Republicans aren’t going to follow laws, but they do have to worry about midterms. They can’t fully cheat to win.