I know this question is odd, but unfortunately we have a lot of unhoused addicted people in my city. I often see them sitting on a bench bent at the waist in half like a rag doll, or standing somewhere half bent over, like stooped over nodding out I guess? I don’t really know anything about substance use, but it’s such a strange sight, what substances cause them to bend over like this?
Poor souls. The mayors of big cities here have asked the provincial government to declare a state of emergency due to homelessness and addiction being so rampant, but Doug Ford doesn’t give a shit about them.
“Yes you can technically kill yourself with both and definitely have a problem with the substance and ruin your life, but the stronger one seems to do that quite a bit more.”
100% agree. This is a huge part of the issue that I feel many people just don’t get. 3mg of this stuff is enough to kill an average sized adult male. That would easily fit under your fingernail with room to spare. 50 - 100 times more potent than morphine. Pretty crazy.
Interesting about buprenorphin in Finland, I had never heard of it. Is it a recent thing there?
Depends on how you define recent I think, but in most senses of the word, no, not that recent.
We had a bit of a heroin problem in the 90’s apparently (I wasn’t yet in any sort of drug rings as a kid so wouldn’t know myself) and the legend is that actual organised crime in Finland got fed up with heroin and the decided it won’t be sold in Finland anymore. There still is heroin definitely but it’s genuinely fucking rare, especially compared to weed, speed, lsd, etc.
An definitely subutex, which is the buprenorphin. It’s only a partial agonist and there’s narcan in it as well, so it’s impossible/extremely hard to od on it fatally.
In France they cost like 1e a pill here you can sell them for 80. Then you see oxys being sold sometimes, they go for about 1e/mg, so if you buy a mild 10mg it’s a tenner but an 80mg pill would be 80e.
The bupre junkies do get nasty though in health and share needles and all that is still a risk for them, but they won’t accidentally od unlike someone shooting up heroin or fentanyl
Some of them made movie about their life. Then like 6 years later the “protagonist” of that movie was found dead hanging by an extension cord somewhere in Thailand. Suicide or drug debt no-one knows.
If you don’t like seeing people actually inject themselves, with all the “reversing” as well (idk what the term is in English, but junkies sometimes draw back on the needle, so blood shoots back to the syringe and then push again, to flush every little bit of the drug from the syringe).
Reindeerspotting - Escape from Santaland 2010