Don’t wait for the proposition before replying to the first bit. It’s extra-embarassing to get to shoot your shot after broaching the subject only to be shut-down.
Girls are even worse about this, and they’ll still ask you out and call you moron/must-be-gay-for-being-uninterested even if you reply to that first bit with “well, I like this other girl…” or “I tried that with …”
Oh, and a girl you like but had no clue liked you also running from the classroom crying when she hears you asked another girl out is just … absolute joy /s, let me tell you.
EDIT: “girls” was intentional; This would rank highly among behaviors that I personally draw the lines between girls/women and boys/men. In school, I worried about myself, because I never liked the more extreme/immature “girly” behaviors like so. Can’t say it was a negative to end-up fixated on 25+, or at least mature-acting, women early-on though.
I can’t speak for every man, but I give no shits if a woman I’ve rejected says something mean. She’s not going to follow me home, rape me, and beat me to death.
And why exactly is that, oh great and wise rape apologist?
EDIT: As expected, you just hate hearing that men are actually victimized because you’ve convinced yourself that it somehow detracts from your own victimization, so rather than have an actual discussion where you might have to challenge your deeply-rooted beliefs, you snark, downvote, and run away like an utter coward. You can, in fact, go fuck yourself with a hot metal spike.
Short of the immediate physical violence that is FAR from out of the question from girls, do you write off having her family, your own family, thugs, your peers and authority-figures sicc’ed on you for made-up bullshit as nothing at all? Even just having “he made her cry” or “he’s afraid of a girl” reach the wrong ears or big-enough audience can cause all-sorts of fallout.
It’s amazing how much y’all weaponize the things “we don’t do”(but statistics say otherwise) as an excuse to ignore all sorts of malice.
So cute how you skipped straight to false-rape-accusation levels of “that never happened”, and you’re telling me to chill. You also apparently never talked to a man about what’s happened to him.
Sounds exhausting to put such efforts into making sure we don’t feel safe-enough around you to tell you about it, but y’all are just so proud of yourselves for it.
“Dude got beat up by a girl!”, “he must have deserved it!!”, “that never happens” … One of us is bullshitting and outing themselves as an awful person here, and I gotta tell you, it normally takes a lot to out-shine me at that, but there you are.
The fact you don’t understand how long girls and boys, but especially girls, get-away with carrying this behavior into the workplace shows yours. There are Companies, seemingly the majority in the US, IME, where this is their culture. It meshes all-too-well with the patriarchal shit that these same girls and yourself claim to despise.
Until you can mature-enough to stop identifying with every xx or feme-person no matter how toxic or immature their behavior, you are no more ready for this conversation than they.
Weird that you assume I’m the one with that problem among all of those here. I’ve been very clear that I consider this a maturity-issue for both genders, and that its something re-inforced by society. Boys learn from Girls as much as from anyone else. What’s your excuse for ignoring all-that to come at me with such an absurdly-shallow take?
You said this: “Until you can mature-enough to stop identifying with every xx or feme-person no matter how toxic or immature their behavior, you are no more ready for this conversation than they.“
Directly after saying this: “The fact you don’t understand how long girls get-away with carrying this behavior into the workplace shows yours.”
You see what you did there, right? Or are you genuinely just that fucking stupid?
Met them on their own moral-high-ground/maturity-vs-immaturity playing-field?
Look, I’m not trying to get them to admit I’m completely right. I don’t even assert that I am. I’m asking them to check me, which inevitably leads to checking-one’s-self, unless they’re beyond help. Until I’m certain someone’s beyond help, I’ll mock them, stoop to their level, whatever it takes to shock them into looking in the mirror with something other than certainty and pride in their flawless facade. Ideally, I’m the kind of person who prefers to be proven wrong, particularly about the shitty aspects of like …
… but still, that requires substantiation. All they’ve done here, and now you, is sling mud, and when it comes to pigeons and chess-boards, I occassionally find myself with the time, identifying with the Goodfeathers for shits and giggles.
Don’t confuse me for thinking I’m better than y’all, or trying exempt myself from the facts about boys(most of what separates me from them is decades, I know), but don’t tell me their metaphorical asses and dingle-berries aren’t hanging-out for the world to see in this thread eaither.
Look in a mirror? Stop projecting? I’ve sad my peace on this forwards and backwards now, probably twice-over, sure, but …
I blocked the other person who replied to my top-level comment before I went to work last night, replied to something much shorter I saw in-kind today, then you show up and yeah, I gave my initial reply to you more effort than it warranted because I confused your comment for canofcam’s arguments taking a dive into the absurd -literally jerking-off their own ego …
… but no, it was you. Fuck-off. I owe you nothing and wish I could take back the effort I spent replying to your low-effort shit-stirring. You’ve contributed nothing here and are well-into just-trying-to-create-some-drama territory.
I would be happy for you that your experiences and those of my friends(men and women) and myself have so little in common, but that gives you no right to drag me into your non-sense.
Man, you get real upset when your bullshit is highlighted, huh? This, again, was just jerking off your ego, you’ve established and said essentially nothing other than you have a fragile ego and no ability to self reflect. You’re being a crybaby because your views were questioned in a way you couldn’t defend.
What a coward you are.
Edit: Also, it would seem you genuinely are just that fucking stupid, stupid.
Girls are even worse about this, and they’ll still ask you out and call you moron/must-be-gay-for-being-uninterested even if you reply to that first bit with “well, I like this other girl…” or “I tried that with …”
You mean they will rape, assault, or murder ‘boys’ that reject them?
Did I complain that boys were facing-consequences for this or something? Short of the escalation you’ve mentioned when it comes to light, they don’t, so … Did I condone the behavior? Because it sounds like you are.
One of us here is pretending that its an a-okay scenario, so long as it doesn’t lead to rape, assault, or murder, and frankly ignoring that only one-of those is out-of-the-question-from-a-girl-enough to be almost-entirely written-off. That one of us? Its not me.
You want to know where those end-points start? One of the paths is right there in four-panels, it doesn’t magically work-out when the roles are reversed, and a double-standard isn’t what’s going to fix it.
We’re all pretty awful imho, but the ones I hate the worst will never admit how bad they are, or that anyone remotely like them, down to having x specific thing in common, could be awful abusers themselves.
Don’t wait for the proposition before replying to the first bit. It’s extra-embarassing to get to shoot your shot after broaching the subject only to be shut-down.
Girls are even worse about this, and they’ll still ask you out and call you moron/must-be-gay-for-being-uninterested even if you reply to that first bit with “well, I like this other girl…” or “I tried that with …”
Oh, and a girl you like but had no clue liked you also running from the classroom crying when she hears you asked another girl out is just … absolute joy /s, let me tell you.
EDIT: “girls” was intentional; This would rank highly among behaviors that I personally draw the lines between girls/women and boys/men. In school, I worried about myself, because I never liked the more extreme/immature “girly” behaviors like so. Can’t say it was a negative to end-up fixated on 25+, or at least mature-acting, women early-on though.
I can’t speak for every man, but I give no shits if a woman I’ve rejected says something mean. She’s not going to follow me home, rape me, and beat me to death.
I’ve had a woman I rejected stalk me, spy on me while I was having sex with my girlfriend at the time, and then drug and rape me.
Yeah, yeah, I know. Something something anecdotal something something statistics something something I should go fuck myself.
Yeah, but not why you think
And why exactly is that, oh great and wise rape apologist?
EDIT: As expected, you just hate hearing that men are actually victimized because you’ve convinced yourself that it somehow detracts from your own victimization, so rather than have an actual discussion where you might have to challenge your deeply-rooted beliefs, you snark, downvote, and run away like an utter coward. You can, in fact, go fuck yourself with a hot metal spike.
Sure she’s not. Are you really that ignorant?
Short of the immediate physical violence that is FAR from out of the question from girls, do you write off having her family, your own family, thugs, your peers and authority-figures sicc’ed on you for made-up bullshit as nothing at all? Even just having “he made her cry” or “he’s afraid of a girl” reach the wrong ears or big-enough audience can cause all-sorts of fallout.
It’s amazing how much y’all weaponize the things “we don’t do”(but statistics say otherwise) as an excuse to ignore all sorts of malice.
Chill. Yes I absolutely do write that off, I’ve never met any man to whom that has actually happened.
Because we don’t talk about it due to people like you writing it off as never having happened.
So cute how you skipped straight to false-rape-accusation levels of “that never happened”, and you’re telling me to chill. You also apparently never talked to a man about what’s happened to him.
Sounds exhausting to put such efforts into making sure we don’t feel safe-enough around you to tell you about it, but y’all are just so proud of yourselves for it.
“Dude got beat up by a girl!”, “he must have deserved it!!”, “that never happens” … One of us is bullshitting and outing themselves as an awful person here, and I gotta tell you, it normally takes a lot to out-shine me at that, but there you are.
The fact that you are so hung up on classroom behaviour shows your maturity level.
The fact you don’t understand how long girls and boys, but especially girls, get-away with carrying this behavior into the workplace shows yours. There are Companies, seemingly the majority in the US, IME, where this is their culture. It meshes all-too-well with the patriarchal shit that these same girls and yourself claim to despise.
Until you can mature-enough to stop identifying with every xx or feme-person no matter how toxic or immature their behavior, you are no more ready for this conversation than they.
You need to stop seeing a distinction between male and female and realise there are shitty people and not-shitty people.
Weird that you assume I’m the one with that problem among all of those here. I’ve been very clear that I consider this a maturity-issue for both genders, and that its something re-inforced by society. Boys learn from Girls as much as from anyone else. What’s your excuse for ignoring all-that to come at me with such an absurdly-shallow take?
You said this: “Until you can mature-enough to stop identifying with every xx or feme-person no matter how toxic or immature their behavior, you are no more ready for this conversation than they.“
Directly after saying this: “The fact you don’t understand how long girls get-away with carrying this behavior into the workplace shows yours.”
You see what you did there, right? Or are you genuinely just that fucking stupid?
Met them on their own moral-high-ground/maturity-vs-immaturity playing-field?
Look, I’m not trying to get them to admit I’m completely right. I don’t even assert that I am. I’m asking them to check me, which inevitably leads to checking-one’s-self, unless they’re beyond help. Until I’m certain someone’s beyond help, I’ll mock them, stoop to their level, whatever it takes to shock them into looking in the mirror with something other than certainty and pride in their flawless facade. Ideally, I’m the kind of person who prefers to be proven wrong, particularly about the shitty aspects of like …
… but still, that requires substantiation. All they’ve done here, and now you, is sling mud, and when it comes to pigeons and chess-boards, I occassionally find myself with the time, identifying with the Goodfeathers for shits and giggles.
Don’t confuse me for thinking I’m better than y’all, or trying exempt myself from the facts about boys(most of what separates me from them is decades, I know), but don’t tell me their metaphorical asses and dingle-berries aren’t hanging-out for the world to see in this thread eaither.
The fuck even is the point you’re trying to make? This isn’t intellectual, you’re just myopically jerking off your own ego.
Look in a mirror? Stop projecting? I’ve sad my peace on this forwards and backwards now, probably twice-over, sure, but …
I blocked the other person who replied to my top-level comment before I went to work last night, replied to something much shorter I saw in-kind today, then you show up and yeah, I gave my initial reply to you more effort than it warranted because I confused your comment for canofcam’s arguments taking a dive into the absurd -literally jerking-off their own ego …
… but no, it was you. Fuck-off. I owe you nothing and wish I could take back the effort I spent replying to your low-effort shit-stirring. You’ve contributed nothing here and are well-into just-trying-to-create-some-drama territory.
I would be happy for you that your experiences and those of my friends(men and women) and myself have so little in common, but that gives you no right to drag me into your non-sense.
Man, you get real upset when your bullshit is highlighted, huh? This, again, was just jerking off your ego, you’ve established and said essentially nothing other than you have a fragile ego and no ability to self reflect. You’re being a crybaby because your views were questioned in a way you couldn’t defend.
What a coward you are.
Edit: Also, it would seem you genuinely are just that fucking stupid, stupid.
You’ve offered nothing for me to need to defend against. Bye now.
You mean they will rape, assault, or murder ‘boys’ that reject them?
Did I complain that boys were facing-consequences for this or something? Short of the escalation you’ve mentioned when it comes to light, they don’t, so … Did I condone the behavior? Because it sounds like you are.
One of us here is pretending that its an a-okay scenario, so long as it doesn’t lead to rape, assault, or murder, and frankly ignoring that only one-of those is out-of-the-question-from-a-girl-enough to be almost-entirely written-off. That one of us? Its not me.
You want to know where those end-points start? One of the paths is right there in four-panels, it doesn’t magically work-out when the roles are reversed, and a double-standard isn’t what’s going to fix it.
Some humans are terrible regardless of sex organs
We’re all pretty awful imho, but the ones I hate the worst will never admit how bad they are, or that anyone remotely like them, down to having x specific thing in common, could be awful abusers themselves.