• vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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      17 hours ago

      Damnatio Memoriae as the Romans called, the removal of a person not just from life but also memory. Though I say we keep his actions and consequences recorded, just remove his personhood and likeness. Every picture and video of him should just be mess of static and fucked but understandable audio. Things not related to his presidency should be destroyed in their entirety.

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        7 hours ago

        That sounds pretty difficult to do in the modern world.

        In contrast, I like the idea that before he croaks he could know that his name will be cursed and his grave pissed upon for generations.

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          16 hours ago

          The argument I could see is that a person’s personhood is relevant to their actions, but Trump doesnt really fall into that category in my opinion. Hes more a void of a person existing on base impulse and desire further amplified by his narcissism. Seriously is there anything Trump actually like? And not in a way that could be explained by scratching his base impulses at any given time?

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            I’ve always been disturbed by the descriptions of his inability to enjoy humor and music. Those are like core to humanity, in my estimation.

            I’ve known at least one legitimate dangerous psychopath, knew him quite well. He had a rich (if dark) sense of humor and legitimately interesting, opinionated taste in music. And he was the kind of person it was unsafe to be near if he was merely bored (to say nothing of angry/frustrated or worse), and you were sufficiently weaker and isolated (I never was, to be clear). He also was barely literate and mischaracterized by lots of people as profoundly unintelligent.

            I’ve known other interesting individuals damaged in different unrecoverable ways, and everyone I’ve known (that remains able to interact even somewhat smoothly with others at least) has those core human pieces intact.

            Trump is truly a bizarre human being, and not in one single way I can call positive. I wonder if there are others in history who were notably “deaf” to the emotional meanings of music and humor (minds structurally incapable of empathy, I’m guessing) yet still adept at social interactions and even possessing a strange almost bewitching quality among the general populace.

            Even cult leaders, known for that latter quality and also lack of empathy, they tend to understand music and humor and even use them for effect in their abuses. Trump alllllmost gets there with humor, but not quite, to him it seems like just a way of attacking people that is somehow more publicly tolerated, he doesn’t ever seem to find it funny himself - just another weapon/tool to use. Weird fuckin brain on this guy (very weirdly damaged/malformed, I suspect).

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              Honestly I don’t think Trump ever moved past being 3 or 4 on an internal level, his actions make sense if you consider that he never developed internalized functions for morality, intellectualism, or even an internal code. He may very well still be at the point where the only reason he knows not to touch a hot stove is because he got physically hurt by it because he can’t internally run the calculations that fire hot. Or at least that’s what makes sense to me, he’s basically a lot like a small child only reacting to the world.

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      21 hours ago

      the democrats would never run anyone who had the balls to do that. it would be too ‘mean’.

      but if such a candidate did get to run, they’d probably be incredibly popular.