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    In every ST series, they only ever say that in warp. And nobody has no idea how warp works.

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          The D. We only saw The C once. That was the ship Tasha went to with Shooter McGavin.

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            IIRC the in universe reason for the E’s long ass nacelles was to allow it to achieve 9.95. I am pretty sure I remember part of the expanded universe going into experimental refits of the USS Sovereign that allowed it to hit 9.995.

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            It did, but it also attacked the klingons from below rather than the standard head on so we know they writers were all high when they wrote that!

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            Writers are not physicists, and the TOS Enterprise also had a few minutes above warp 10 at some point. It’s whatever a set of 2-4 writers and 3-5 producers decided that week, and retconning the awkward bits later.

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              It’s whatever a set of 2-4 writers and 3-5 producers decided that week, and retconning the awkward bits later.

              it is actually not, they had detailed manual for that. star trek was inconsistent or vague about lot of stuff (for example how their economic utopia works), but they usually tried to have their technobabble consistent.

              they changed how the warp speed works between TOS and TNG.

              https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Warp_factor#Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series

              (not saying there weren’t exceptions, for example there were some really random numbers flying in the equinox double episode.)

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                Then tell me what Tom Paris did in the Cochrane shuttlecraft ;)

                That’s my point. It’s a standard until it’s not for a convenient plot reason.

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                  TOS:

                  Warp factor 	speed (c) 	travelled in 24 hours (ly) 	Earth to Alpha Centauri
                  
                  9 	729 	1.996 	52.07 hours
                  10 	1000 	2.738 	37.96 hours
                  11 	1331 	3.644 	28.52 hours 
                  

                  from TNG forward:

                  9 	1516 	4.15 	25.03 hours
                  10 	 	 	0 
                  

                  the lizard babies episode, however absurd, is in line with this.

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                    Cool.

                    Now tell me about all the newfangled quantum slip stream, etc. that varied writers came up with since TNG in Disco and whatever. Ones that avoid the TNG warp 10 limit.

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          Warp 10 was how they got back, wasn’t it?

          But it’s also at the end of the Star Trek timeline, so they’re allowed to advance the tech curve a little bit

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            Warp 10 was how they got back, wasn’t it?

            no, warp 10 is how paris and janeway made their lizard babies, left them stranded somewhere and then never talked about them again. worf is parent of the year compared to these two.

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            Voyager took a Borg transwarp corridor to get back to Earth. Future Admiral Janeway facilitated it.

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      less so in nutrek, old trek usually has some techno-babble included. i wonder if they think the viewers will get bored to death from a pseudo-explanation of how warp works, eventhough they sorta explained it over the franchise as (contracting and expanding space using a subspace field).

      transwarp, vortex, slipstream kinda sidesteps the speed of light in our own universe, by interdimensional travel, hence why its faster than warp.