• Vogi@piefed.social
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    1. ban advertisement
    2. bunch of jobs would not be worth it anymore
    3. more people would take on real jobs
    4. split up the work that’s left and only work 2 hours a week.
    5. give everyone full payment
    6. ???
    7. profit hang out with otters
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    “Grindset” is based in old puritan morality dictating that you must suffer in order to deserve anything, including to live. It’s still “Christian” values fucking us over.

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      Left leaning spaces have become really good at pairing “don’t work too hard” meme’s with “I can’t pay rent or eat” memes and also “why can’t we get anything done” memes. They all go together.

      People say that as we age that most people gravitate towards the right. I think it’s that as we age we slowly realize how full of shit the left are and how they really are just lazy people full of ideas they can’t bother to fight for themselves. That “grindset” or whatever the fuck you call it mentality is at the core of the right wing. And it shows in that they tend to hold power even when they don’t. The average right winger will drive across states just to go shit on some insignificant thing because they all feel they can change things in their life with effort. The left can’t bother to do much beyond tell others to disengage and not work too hard.

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        This is actually changing. Historically, folks usually moved more right as they aged, but that is shifting as folks agr now. Times are different, tons of people who did everything right can’t even afford a house now.

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          Is it really changing?

          Anecdotaly I see more right leaning people of all ages. People on the left are in hiding.

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        The left can’t bother to do much beyond tell others to disengage and not work too hard.

        You’re American, aren’t you?

        You do know that in the US, roughly one people out of 10 are literal millionaires, yet your major cities still have huge homeless populations (whom most have jobs by the way, some homeless people working several jobs) and literal shit on the street.

        Say what you want about the Nordic model but it’s definitely much further left than whatever bullshit America is doing.

        And we’re doing pretty okay. We have no human shit on our streets. Can you say the same?

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          I’m Canadian. We get American politics infecting our country all the time. I agree inequality is rampant. Which pisses me off even more how ineffective the left are at capturing any of the population. It’s dead in the water.

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            ineffective the left are at capturing any of the population. It’s dead in

            In North America.

            I think your sense of politics on a national level, is massively dirtied by your southern neighbour.

            The left isn’t ineffective. Most people definitely know and favour leftist policies if you go ask them. Only some weird right wingers wouldn’t agree that it’s the government’s job to help it’s people.

            So because there’s no good talking points on the right, the current propaganda is “don’t even support the left, they won’t achieve shit”. As is sowing apathy. Apathy is the single greatest tool an oppressor could wield. When people don’t believe change is possible, no-one does anything about it. “why bother” they say “it won’t work anyway”.

            You can’t know until you try. I know I’m too guilty of this as well. But realising something and being able to not be affected by it are two different things.

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      I would argue it’s not really even a solid overlap with Christianity. Puritan ideals are a small subset of the overall Christian world, and might not even be the most relevant religiously centered ideals affecting our society today (prosperity gospel folks might be more politically relevant in America these days, and they are basically saying the opposite, that their religion offers promises of riches now in this life, and Catholics don’t seem as likely as Protestants to see toil as virtue).

      Perhaps more importantly, there is a strong overlap with some cultural forces in distinctly non-Christian societies, like in India and China and Singapore and stuff, where people actively preach a philosophy where people must suffer in order to develop their characters and earn happiness/prosperity. I have had colleagues from Singapore (both Chinese and Indian heritage) who talked about this kind of stuff a lot, and it’s consistent with some of the LinkedIn nonsense that I see and make fun of on a regular basis. I think the concept and the origins of these ideas are pretty far removed from Christianity.

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        Pressure turns coal into diamond - My Indian father taught me

        I don’t believe it applies to humans now tho. I believe it comes from poor people trying to justify their hardships.

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          “Pressure creates diamonds, yes, but it also creates rubble.”

          I like your analysis. It feels more optimistic than the idea of an upper class foisting it on us to have us work harder and question less. Though I suppose they’re not necessarily mutually exclusive things.

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        Do you think that these are unrelated? Capitalism builds on puritanical protestant ideology, which played a part in the early spread of capitalist ideology. See Weber’s The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism. It’s not a perfect cause and effect, but rather one piece of a web of cultural influences.

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        Having cute picnics is called “being homeless”? Those are the nicest cleanest clothes I’ve ever seen homeless people war. Also that picnic is the most and nicest food I’ve ever seen homeless people carry around.

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    This, except the otter is making out with the rat while the mole is inside the otter with the rat in its mouth

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    Then five minutes later Toad shows up with his special brand of chaos and massively fucks up the lives of these three yet again.

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    The problem is that picnic spread is probably over $100 alone, not counting the basket.

    We still need to fucking work, we just need the people we work for to pay us anywhere remotely on the scale of survivability.

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        The work needs doing, and currently only humans can do it, so someone has to do it. The problem is with how it is handled. What we need is a system that incentivises working but allows people to thrive without doing it, which is a difficult balance.

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          A lot of the work doesn’t need doing.

          I remember an anthropology class where they were talking about early hominids who found these nut trees that produced huge caloricly dense nuts. They went from every day being a gamble trying to hunt or forage enough food to break even to all the sudden having a stable calorie surplus. One individual could gather 20k calories easy, this allowed others to not work. While some slacked off some took up past times and invention and they started inventing the tools that would eventually lead to them becoming human.

          There is no reason that this doesn’t hold true today. Take everything you need, food, reasonable shelter, phone, meds, etc and you come way, way below the amount you produced if you compared it to calories. We went from gathering the nuts to, farming to at least 3 periods of Industrialization and at each stage we easily 10x that amount of calories the average person produces. To the point today we could probably survive with half the people working like 12 hours a week.

          My point being that I believe UBI should be done, as the surplus that we produce is more than enough to cover it. I believe that if UBI were to happen we would see a new human renaissance bigger even than the Paleolithic or Neolithic Revolutions.

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          Much of work humans need to do to survive has been automated with the advent of the industrial revolution (not even talking about computers and AI). We could afford to have half of the population not work. Oh wait, that was the case in the 60s when women didn’t work.

          Now it’s difficult financially for 2 working people to raise a family of 4, despite all the automation. It’s because the people who own the business we work for don’t pay as much as the value we produce for them. That’s why wealth is getting accumulated in the hands of few.

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            Thats not true at all. Much of the work humans need to survive still requires humans.

            The fact is that people aren’t going to work and getting paid by businesses that produce products nobody wants.

            You are overthinking about a meme. There is nothing stopping you and 3 people from having a picnic in the park. I could do it every week. Someone unemployed getting the benefit could do this every week. Thinking that the current economic system is preventing people from this is insane.

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              A combine can do hundreds of hours of labour work in an hour. We still have to produce the same amount of crops.

              Humanity went from 99% of the population working in farming to just 2% because of advancements in farming technology. We literally only need 2 people every 100 to grow enough food to feed everyone.

              That’s why not everyone needs to work.

              We have an over production problem. Companies still manage to keep prices high by employing artificial scarcity where they tell us they only have limited quantity when in reality they have an abundance of it. Supermarkets literally throw away perfectly good food everyday instead of giving it to poor people to keep the prices high.

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        I don’t understand why you caught so many downvotes. We probably only *need * to work a few hours a week on average to survive with current technology. The rest is just bonus… And all that bonus is going to the 1%.

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    This is the inspirado I needed to make a random ass Star Trek: The Animated Series screenshot work. It’s been lingering in the back of my mind for months, but now it has a purpose. Many thanks.

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      I was coming to the comments to make some kind of comment about how the chill vibe of this meme is the reason I brought nature to me and built a pond in my yard and etc…

      But your comment was at the very top. My “keep those damn fish alive” sense kicked in. So my train of thought took a hard turn towards “holy shit is that a mink?? RUN!!!”

      Or replace mink with a similar cute little murder machine species. I haven’t dealt with them, fortunately, but I’ve heard the stories.

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    hangin out? I did that every day at my apartment complex growing up in rural kentucky and we’d never be inside until it was dark