I fear you’re about to get downvoted and whined at by a bunch of cowardly US liberals who can’t handle the fact that their good intentions accomplish fuck all. I’ll go ahead and cover their canned responses so they don’t have to bother:
“We can’t fight back because then the Nazis will take the opportunity to punish us harder”
“it’s not as EASY as you seem to think”
“Yeah, well what have YOU done??”
“Did you not see the VERY effective and not-at-all-a-huge-joke No Kings protests?”
“Keyboard warrior!”
“I can’t have principles, I might lose the shitty job I hate!”
“No matter what we do the US military will always be stronger so we’d better just keep our heads down and hope our own government doesn’t decide to murder us.”
“I believe that every historical revolutionary to whom we owe our prosperity and whose legacy we’ve been dining out on for a couple centuries was a Disney character with no family or livelihood at stake and who never really had to risk anything because in my child-brain their victory was guaranteed.”
Number six, actually in reality translates to food security safety for your family and children. Only like a teenager would think that it’s just a shitty job.
Further, you seem to think that people who have revolted just decided based on a technical argument that they should just revolt and that they were just simply smarter more responsible and motivated than us? The hard, true reality is that things are just simply still too good for us. Once they take away enough people’s true livelihood, once every family is personally affected, either by having members shot or tortured or taken away or deported, etc., etc. Once people feel like they have nothing to lose by letting their monkey rage start making decisions for them, it will happen. You’ll get your revolution. Things need to get much worse though. If I turn off the news, my life is fine. Single family house, wife and kids, etc. I make plenty of money and there’s plenty liesure ly activities to do and plenty of money going into my retirement accounts, shit’s fucking fine. I am not picking up a gun and giving that up. I’m so sorry for your imagination, but this is real. I’m not gonna do it until I absolutely have to. And if it actually starts even getting really close to that point, I will move out of the country. I’m not your hero. I am my family’s hero.
You have to read history like an adult with experience, not like a child with an imagination. Those revolts that you admire so much were fucking horror. Nobody felt like they were doing such a great and wonderful thing for everyone. The people that revolted were fucking furious angry because they experienced real losses pain, suffering, and hopelessness.
I’m very, very sorry for your personal narrative, but we are not there yet. The vast majority of people are fine. The revolt won’t come. The puppet masters of this dump of a country and world know that they can’t push the majority that hard. Only dumbass dictators in smaller countries that are easier to control were dumb enough to have crossed that line.
Have you ever heard how much a successful data scientists makes? You know, those assholes, I’m sure of which many are on Lemmy. The ones that write all the code to collect and catalog all of the data that’s collected from everywhere? All the surveillance data, all the facial recognition, all the tools that the evil will use to strangle us?
I saw one such guy that makes over 600k a year plus giant bonuses. There’s a lot of those guys out there. They’re helping the evil powers. I’m sure some of them are hypocritical enough to go and protest online that we should all be revolting as well. I’m just saying, in the real world, things are still too good and the revolution doesn’t come because people simply just choose to do so as a potent and prudent strategy. When shit’s really bad enough, it will happen all on its own. No thanks to fools online whining about their little imaginary scenarios. And it won’t be pretty. And it won’t get you what you want.
It is hilarious that you think you can educate me about this- my father smuggled weapons and actively defended a multi-ethnic neighborhood in Bosnia when I was a young teenager, was “disappeared” after questioning, his body likely ending up in a mass grave somewhere.
My father chose to stand up when staying quiet would have been safer. He refused to be complicit with his silence, refused to let his inaction help make room for cruelty and erasure. It was painful growing up without him, but I also grew up knowing that when history demanded a line be drawn, he stepped across it with his eyes open.
Sitting there telling me how to “understand history.” You’re a coward.
My brother’s ex-wife was a Bosnian refugee. I’ve seen the pictures of her house covered in bullet holes. And i’ve heard the horror stories.
Unfortunately, you’re making my point for me. The situation in Bosnia was so bad that it did ruin the lives of the majority of people. People had no other option than to revolt and fight or run.
Remember that your father was a grown man, and he chose to fight. I don’t know your age, but one day you may realize he could have chosen to stay with you and run. You would have been better off with your father alive and caring for you and teaching you things and providing for you.
I understand that you see your father as a hero. I don’t know you and I didn’t know your father and I don’t know your situation. But from what you wrote, I could easily ascribe the psychological term of “rationalization.” He left you. He risked his life and lost it and abandoned his family. You were severely traumatized by this. We all come up with explanations to make ourselves feel better. It’s called coping. I think you are telling yourself that he was a hero and that he’s so strong-willed and did the right thing. I’m sorry.
I guess my story has triggered you and that’s why you called me a coward. I can tell you one thing: My children will never be able to tell your story. My boys will have their father. And there is no political reason in the world that’s more important than my family. I will never abandon my kids.
I don’t care what your opinion of me is. I care what their opinion of me is. And I don’t see why they would think of me as a coward for choosing to do my job which is to raise and take care of them and give them the safest best environment for them to grow and thrive. I can’t do that if I’m dead or in jail or disappeared. Therefore, I will not be risking my life for some stupid fucking political reason.
And your children will wonder why their father didn’t fight to save his country- because what’s coming if you don’t is so much worse. You’re not giving them a safe environment- you’re ensuring that they’ll eventually lose everything. Your kids will see you the way the descendants of 1930s Germans see their parents and grandparents.
Your talking down to me is pretty fucking fun, though.
I’m an immigrant in this shit ass country. And I immigrated from another shithouse country. And I don’t have any ownership of either. Political boundaries are nonsense. My children are perfectly safe, and if I feel they’re not, I am out of here. This is not my country.
My father stayed and I got to go to college and I make enough money that I can pay and bribe my way out of nearly any situation. He’s still alive and enjoys playing with his grandchildren.
Your arguments have shifted to figurative crap. You may be older than me, but your emotional development appears to be stuck at 16. I guess that’s why you’re a grown man and going around telling people they need to risk their lives just like your father did to feel better about yourself.
Your life sucks, and other people’s lives do not need to be as shitty as yours. My children’s will definitely not be. I’m sure you’re way too macho to seek mental health counseling but holy shit do you need it. Your head is not on straight and you’re a big ball of cope and rationalization. sucks for you. ✌️
Ah well now that you wrote out that list of valid replies, they suddenly became invalid, and it doesn’t matter that you haven’t practiced what you’ve preached.
Some of us are frauds and some of us are truthful. We both know which you are. I could pretend I’m a violent revolutionary too but I don’t get off on lying on the Internet.
And for those same whiney liberals are triggered by this and are ready to write an essay about how “nuh uh! Actually…!”
they will do that regardless.
everclear and socks are cheap and easy.
I plead the 5th. Don’t post your crimes online. Don’t take your phone with you when you do crimes.
peaceful protests only work with direct action. The march on Selma was about getting a lot of people to be told they can’t vote more than it was about being seen being angry. You’ve been lied to about how peaceful protests work on purpose. People in power will not give you the education you need to overthrow them.
go ahead and like that pride meme, really show the algorithm you’re an “ally.” Allies get in the trenches when the war is on.
you will probably lose that to a video card anyway.
strike and move. If you stick around you’re a target. The US military has never been good at dealing with insurgencies.
I fear you’re about to get downvoted and whined at by a bunch of cowardly US liberals who can’t handle the fact that their good intentions accomplish fuck all. I’ll go ahead and cover their canned responses so they don’t have to bother:
“We can’t fight back because then the Nazis will take the opportunity to punish us harder”
“it’s not as EASY as you seem to think”
“Yeah, well what have YOU done??”
“Did you not see the VERY effective and not-at-all-a-huge-joke No Kings protests?”
“Keyboard warrior!”
“I can’t have principles, I might lose the shitty job I hate!”
“No matter what we do the US military will always be stronger so we’d better just keep our heads down and hope our own government doesn’t decide to murder us.”
“I believe that every historical revolutionary to whom we owe our prosperity and whose legacy we’ve been dining out on for a couple centuries was a Disney character with no family or livelihood at stake and who never really had to risk anything because in my child-brain their victory was guaranteed.”
Number six, actually in reality translates to food security safety for your family and children. Only like a teenager would think that it’s just a shitty job.
Further, you seem to think that people who have revolted just decided based on a technical argument that they should just revolt and that they were just simply smarter more responsible and motivated than us? The hard, true reality is that things are just simply still too good for us. Once they take away enough people’s true livelihood, once every family is personally affected, either by having members shot or tortured or taken away or deported, etc., etc. Once people feel like they have nothing to lose by letting their monkey rage start making decisions for them, it will happen. You’ll get your revolution. Things need to get much worse though. If I turn off the news, my life is fine. Single family house, wife and kids, etc. I make plenty of money and there’s plenty liesure ly activities to do and plenty of money going into my retirement accounts, shit’s fucking fine. I am not picking up a gun and giving that up. I’m so sorry for your imagination, but this is real. I’m not gonna do it until I absolutely have to. And if it actually starts even getting really close to that point, I will move out of the country. I’m not your hero. I am my family’s hero.
You have to read history like an adult with experience, not like a child with an imagination. Those revolts that you admire so much were fucking horror. Nobody felt like they were doing such a great and wonderful thing for everyone. The people that revolted were fucking furious angry because they experienced real losses pain, suffering, and hopelessness.
I’m very, very sorry for your personal narrative, but we are not there yet. The vast majority of people are fine. The revolt won’t come. The puppet masters of this dump of a country and world know that they can’t push the majority that hard. Only dumbass dictators in smaller countries that are easier to control were dumb enough to have crossed that line.
Have you ever heard how much a successful data scientists makes? You know, those assholes, I’m sure of which many are on Lemmy. The ones that write all the code to collect and catalog all of the data that’s collected from everywhere? All the surveillance data, all the facial recognition, all the tools that the evil will use to strangle us?
I saw one such guy that makes over 600k a year plus giant bonuses. There’s a lot of those guys out there. They’re helping the evil powers. I’m sure some of them are hypocritical enough to go and protest online that we should all be revolting as well. I’m just saying, in the real world, things are still too good and the revolution doesn’t come because people simply just choose to do so as a potent and prudent strategy. When shit’s really bad enough, it will happen all on its own. No thanks to fools online whining about their little imaginary scenarios. And it won’t be pretty. And it won’t get you what you want.
It is hilarious that you think you can educate me about this- my father smuggled weapons and actively defended a multi-ethnic neighborhood in Bosnia when I was a young teenager, was “disappeared” after questioning, his body likely ending up in a mass grave somewhere.
My father chose to stand up when staying quiet would have been safer. He refused to be complicit with his silence, refused to let his inaction help make room for cruelty and erasure. It was painful growing up without him, but I also grew up knowing that when history demanded a line be drawn, he stepped across it with his eyes open.
Sitting there telling me how to “understand history.” You’re a coward.
Im sorry you lost your father.
My brother’s ex-wife was a Bosnian refugee. I’ve seen the pictures of her house covered in bullet holes. And i’ve heard the horror stories.
Unfortunately, you’re making my point for me. The situation in Bosnia was so bad that it did ruin the lives of the majority of people. People had no other option than to revolt and fight or run.
Remember that your father was a grown man, and he chose to fight. I don’t know your age, but one day you may realize he could have chosen to stay with you and run. You would have been better off with your father alive and caring for you and teaching you things and providing for you.
I understand that you see your father as a hero. I don’t know you and I didn’t know your father and I don’t know your situation. But from what you wrote, I could easily ascribe the psychological term of “rationalization.” He left you. He risked his life and lost it and abandoned his family. You were severely traumatized by this. We all come up with explanations to make ourselves feel better. It’s called coping. I think you are telling yourself that he was a hero and that he’s so strong-willed and did the right thing. I’m sorry.
I guess my story has triggered you and that’s why you called me a coward. I can tell you one thing: My children will never be able to tell your story. My boys will have their father. And there is no political reason in the world that’s more important than my family. I will never abandon my kids.
I don’t care what your opinion of me is. I care what their opinion of me is. And I don’t see why they would think of me as a coward for choosing to do my job which is to raise and take care of them and give them the safest best environment for them to grow and thrive. I can’t do that if I’m dead or in jail or disappeared. Therefore, I will not be risking my life for some stupid fucking political reason.
I guaranteed I’m older than you are.
And your children will wonder why their father didn’t fight to save his country- because what’s coming if you don’t is so much worse. You’re not giving them a safe environment- you’re ensuring that they’ll eventually lose everything. Your kids will see you the way the descendants of 1930s Germans see their parents and grandparents.
Your talking down to me is pretty fucking fun, though.
I’m an immigrant in this shit ass country. And I immigrated from another shithouse country. And I don’t have any ownership of either. Political boundaries are nonsense. My children are perfectly safe, and if I feel they’re not, I am out of here. This is not my country.
My father stayed and I got to go to college and I make enough money that I can pay and bribe my way out of nearly any situation. He’s still alive and enjoys playing with his grandchildren.
Your arguments have shifted to figurative crap. You may be older than me, but your emotional development appears to be stuck at 16. I guess that’s why you’re a grown man and going around telling people they need to risk their lives just like your father did to feel better about yourself.
Your life sucks, and other people’s lives do not need to be as shitty as yours. My children’s will definitely not be. I’m sure you’re way too macho to seek mental health counseling but holy shit do you need it. Your head is not on straight and you’re a big ball of cope and rationalization. sucks for you. ✌️
Do you live in the USA?
You forgot “I’m tiiiiiiiiired!”
Ah well now that you wrote out that list of valid replies, they suddenly became invalid, and it doesn’t matter that you haven’t practiced what you’ve preached.
Imagine telling on yourself like this
Some of us are frauds and some of us are truthful. We both know which you are. I could pretend I’m a violent revolutionary too but I don’t get off on lying on the Internet.
And for those same whiney liberals are triggered by this and are ready to write an essay about how “nuh uh! Actually…!”
Related to #3 is “you first tough guy” as though foreigners are going to cross the border (lol) and fight their battles for them.