A masked guy breaks down your door w/o an Article III warrant absent exigent circumstances? Yeah, I’d agree. Trick will be that pressing the murder charge would be federal since a federal agent dies in the line of official work (though illegal), which would give the president grounds to push for death.

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    Maybe, assuming you make it out of the encounter alive which seems pretty unlikely. In the pictures and videos of these raids there’s usually at least 6 agents involved. If you drop one or two I don’t think the other four would let you leave or peacefully surrender. If you got all six you might be able to leave or wait for the local PD and turn yourself in to them but all of that sounds pretty unbelievable to me.

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      As soon as you shoot one, they’ll be calling it in. There is no winning in that scenario

      If ICE shows up at your door, demanding entry, you have no recourse. The law no longer protects citizens in their own home

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        They’ll just shoot you

        Then Kristi Noem will make an address telling the world how you were a domestic terrorist who threw boiling oil at brave ICE agents just performing their duties

        Pam Bondi will direct the justice department to investigate your spouse, parents, children, and any others they can

        Trump will say you were evil and deserved death

        Half the country will be outraged that you were killed while defending your own home from a clearly illegal ICE raid

        The other half of the country will say, “you were a domestic terrorist who threw boiling oil at brave ICE agents just performing their duties”. They will say, if you did nothing wrong, why are your spouse, parents, children, and others being investigated? An innocent person wouldn’t be related to so many criminals under investigation

        They will conclude, “you were evil and deserved death

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          The public, sure. When it gets to a jury and they see ICE was doing everything wrong the jury has consistently found people not guilty.

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      Yeah. And feds could kill you in jail pretrial. Idk mostly held by sherrifs or what in fed cases, but cops are on their side.