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The Facebook feed is an advanced algorithm that knows a shit ton about what to feed you to keep you engaged. It’s not just the cookies from sites you visit. They track what thumbnails get you to stop scrolling. They track the way a human eye moves and how far your thumb glides across the screen.
Point is, if it’s all scantily clad thirst traps, thats what gets your attention. If you see one, and you stop to take a screenshot for an article you’re writing about how it’s all thirst traps, then every third item will be another thirst trap.
Facebook doesn’t care if you want to see that content. Their goal is to keep your eyes on Facebook. If it makes you mad enough to comment, that’s engagement.
I didn’t read the whole article, so maybe the author addresses this, but what you see on Facebook is a funhouse reflection of your own interests.
When I was still using Instagram reels, I was always amazed how quickly the algorithm figured me out. If I hesitated for even a second on a reel, it would amend my next ones immediately. I assume the real trick is comparing it to the average time spent on a reel, everyone spends longer on a wall of text reel, but when I stop on a Linux reel for an extra second, I’m immediately in the 1% for engagement.
I read something years ago about how your phone keyboard tracks your recommended words, it knows if you’re more likely to type apple or Apple, or if you type soup more than average, and any app that gets that data and compares it to the baseline has an instant, in depth profile on you.
This is exactly why using something like FUTO Keyboard is essential, nowadays.
I’ll have to try that. Can you comment at all on the quality of the autocorrect and ability to learn your vocabulary? I don’t want to connect my keyboard to a server farm but I certainly do want it to learn to help me type more efficiently on this tiny keyboard.
Well, if you enable the model fine-tuning, it should be fine. I do not commit a lot of mistakes, and I usually correct manually, though.
This is why I love the idea of Cromite and other “antifingerprinting” efforts, not simply blocking but spoofing and plausibly randomizing as many metrics as they can.
I wish there was some way to distribute that to the masses. Like maybe a crazy hardware zero day, and it’s only used to stealth load anti fingerprinting on as many devices as it can.
Exactly, if I look at my facebook feed, besides posts from people and groups I actually follow, the “suggested” posts are all stuff that matches my interests. gaming, music, movies.
They hadn’t used Facebook in years, so this is the default algorithm state — rage bait and bate-bait.
Seems to have worked then.
If that’s your take and thats their goal: he doesn’t seem very engaged with the content does he?
So clearly in that case it’s a failure.
On the contrary, I’d say it’s a smashing success. First, the author was deeply engaged with Facebook to write the article. Second, everyone who saw this article and discussed the findings was engaged with Facebook even if they didn’t have the app open. You and I are engaged with Facebook right now. And third, many many more people logged into their Facebook to test the findings either out of curiosity, to disprove the theory, or because they are horny goblins thirsting for smut.
So long Facebook, see you never, until one day I inexplicably need to use your platform to get updates from my kid’s school.
Screw any school or PTA that distributes information by Facebook. That should be outlawed.
If only there was a way to send the same communication to a group of people at once, regardless of what platform they use.
Alas, that sort of technology seems impossible. Even in Star Trek they don’t have such a thing.
Most socia media traffic is just bots commenting on Ai slop. And those “real” posts have their humans thinking thousands of people actually give a shit about their selfies. Completely cooked society.
And those “real” posts
Albert Einstein
I deleted Facebook maybe two years ago. One of the last things I saw was a very obviously AI generated image of six or seven soldiers that had lost the same leg and all had it replaced with a prosthetic at exactly the same point, with some caption about “let’s get some likes for our wounded warriors!” Followed by dozens of comments in support, I assume all were bots.
Guy opens dumpster, is amazed by the amount of trash in there, writes an article about it.
Wow, really low hanging fruits here.
Idk I thought it was an interesting article. I haven’t logged in since like 08, so I had no idea what it is like now.
Everyone should not know what’s going on on Facebook. Or Instagram, tiktok, etc.
And some rando fucking lemmy/reddit user complains about it.
It’s the cycle of life.
Negative attention is also attention. Dumb shit doesn’t deserve any.
What mine shows me is mostly racism and xenophobia. I mean, they know I’m white. Figured they might as well just shoot their shot.
Meanwhile it’s utterly terrible at the one thing it’s supposed to do. I’m got a few old friends and family members on there. Not super close or anything, but the kind of people you’d be vaguely interested in seeing if they had cancer or had babies or anything. Didn’t show me those events at all.
Like, what is even the point of it other than a US far-right psy-op?
YouTube ass title.
Anytime any article or video says that, what ever the subject is get by just fine.
It’s like that journalist law, the one where the answer is always “no” if the headline has a question in it.
What I barely understand is why businesses keep fueling this ad inferno. If it’s mostly bots farming engagement, isn’t that going to limit the effectiveness of advertising? Won’t that eventually show up in their returns on the advertising’? Do they really want their business associated with scantily clad 14 year old feeds, or are they all totally blind to that.
I get part of it… social media is the internet now, for most people. So if you want reach, where else are ya gonna go? Cable? Newspapers? Local news? They killed everything else. Google’s even killing YouTube sponsors now, auto skipping sponsor segments in the app.
Are big businesses still advertising on Facebook? I’d heard that they were running ads for full-on scams, presumably because few real people are left on the platform and it’s no longer attractive to most advertisers.
The businesses that advertise on Facebook are mostly scams from what I have seen. For them the ads work, and they have no reputation to lose.
I am so upset that FB killed Craigslist, that is basically the only reason I use it regularly anymore. My feed has basically been taken over by right wing influencer bots otherwise.
I tried logging in to use the Marketplace to sell some shit. For whatever reason I couldn’t access it. My account is verified, location is set, and some marketplace settings pages said my account is in good standing. Sent a request to support weeks ago and heard nothing.
So I just throw shit away now. Like I WANT to use your platform, but you’re not letting me. Bye.
You can find a buy nothing group. I don’t use Facebook but that’s what family members do.
Craigslist still exists though. We could just… bring it back by using it again. As a bonus, it’s not an app so it doesn’t track you.
Oh believe me I’m trying. I will usually cross-post things I’m selling, but I don’t get anywhere near the interest I’m my 104,000 person statistical area.
Summary: a opinion piece (with a clickbait title) about how Zuckbook is only a AI wasteland anymore.
I just did the same thing - logged on to my facebook account after many years, and I’m not having the same experience at all. Old friends, neighbors, and relatives posting disappointing amounts of AI slop, some local news it suggests I follow (something about a hairdresser getting fined for refusing service), one particular former neighbor posting an endless barrage of AI-generated religious slop… and that’s about it. It wasn’t interesting a decade ago, and it only got less interesting since.
It’s the silly meta icon in WhatsApp that really gets on my nerves. Really needs to go away
There are addons for Firefox and other browsers too to clean out all the unwanted junk on Facebook. When I go on Facebook now it shows almost exclusively stuff that people I know have posted and groups that I follow. SocialFocus is one of them. Try it, it makes a huge difference.
there was chrome (and firefox probably?) extension that went through your all fb liked pages and unsubscribed from them so that when it’s done timeline is gone entirely. fb went after its dev, removed that extension and banned him forever because it kept people off fb https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-bans-unfollow-everything-developer-delete-news-feed-2021-10 doing this all manually still worked back then, not sure about today
Facebook’s letter took him by surprise, he said, adding that Unfollow Everything had only 2,500 weekly active users and 10,000 downloads.
“It was definitely growing, but it wasn’t huge,” he said.
“Apart from that I just very much saw it as something that improves the Facebook experience for Facebook users,” he added, saying he got “amazing feedback” from people saying they “were using Facebook in a way that was much healthier for them.”
slightly healthier relationship with attention devouring parasite in your pocket? not on zucc’s watch, ALL contents of your skull are to be sourced from and licensed to meta platforms inc exclusively
Also, this is not that far from Instagram. And even with real women Insta always felt slimy to me.
And… weird. I don’t get the appeal.
My Facebook feed looks nothing like that, nor most of the (exaggerated?) complaints in the replies.
Mine is full of content from people I know, local community groups, and pages I follow.
If I scroll long enough to run out of actual local/ subscribed content it will start feeding me other stuff, but it’s usually at least somewhat relevant. If it’s not I just hit the X to say not interested and usually take the opportunity to get off the damn thing for a while.
Facebook does a lot of stupid crap but these sort of lazy observations smack of some nerd pandering to the cool kids about how lame their parents are to get some acceptance or something equality as cringe.
My wife opens Facebook on my phone a lot because shes nosy. Last time I opened my phone and it was already open. I scrolled for about 2 minutes waiting to see if anything would interest me, nothing did. Eventually it came up with a real person’s name and I realised I wasnt on reddit.
Took it fucking ages to do the one thing I would want it to do.
I strongly suspect that this sort of thing is done as a gradual rollout to gauge response. You may have just been lucky enough to avoid being sorted into a test group.
I don’t go on to look at my feed so it stays on my condo group and I can see if someone is trying to contact me
I’ve stayed away from Facebook since forever. It was a principle for me, for a long time.
Then I realised that, at least here where I live, whether I like it or not, if I need to engage with something local (local game group, neighbour discussion, updates from the council etc.) Facebook is actually the better place to do it, because it solves a discovery problem that WhatsApp hasn’t really (and where a lot of local stuff also congregates).
I still deeply dislike it and stay away from it. But on the odd occasion I need/offer something from/to the local area, it’s the only game in town.
Town being south
ofin the UK.Town being south of the UK.
Like underwater in the channel? Or even worse, in France?
