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    I can only hope that nothing ever happens to where I’d have to use Windows again. (been using only linux for over 10 years and the latest Windows I ever used was win 7 at work).

    If that happened, the shock of all the last 10-15 years’ accumulation of enshittification hitting me at once might give me a stroke. The boiling frogs of today have gotten used to their OS serving them ads and spying on them by now, but I wouldn’t be able to deal with it.

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      I dual boot at work, which in practice means I have a Linux laptop with a Windows partition for occasional use.

      It’s windows 10, not 11, and the machine has decent specs: 6c/12t, 32 GB ram, and an SSD. Windows feels legitimately clunky and slow to me when I use it, and I am not using some lightweight Linux distro meant to be blazing fast. I run Mint Cinnamon which is as mainstream and all-in-one as it gets. But it still feels like it was created to serve the user rather than third party business interests.

      I have some desktop machines at home that run windows 10 as well, which I use pretty infrequently. One of my winter projects is going to be fixing that. The OS part anyway.

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        Exactly the same setup and experience here. Work forces me to use an inferior application in windows instead of a more powerful option in Linux and it boils my blood.

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          Any chance you could use that Windows app in a VM, or is Windows itself a mandate too?

          Before we got the green light to dual boot, I spent 90% of my time using Linux in a VM while windows basically handled my M365 applications. These days I much prefer having Teams and Outlook being tabs in Firefox!

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            I don’t think so, this is rather complex video editing software and I never heard about anyone running it in a VM. Maybe I’ll give it a try someday.

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              Knowing nothing about it, I’d guess it might work but at a slight performance penalty. But depending on how it uses system resources (GPU use, etc) maybe not.

              You could run a VM of windows on your windows system just to mess with it. I always used VirtualBox but idk if there are better cross-platform options.

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    Ah yes, there isn’t even an option to permanently disable this popup, only remind me later. When the operating system is the nag ware. `

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      Those “remind me later” options should be illegal

      Then again, just install Linux already and you don’t ever have to deal with any of this shit.

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        Yknow sometimes it’ll cross my mind that this is a farce, that really it can’t be that bad. But then I remember the backlash when windows 7 started doing online checks, and why I switched my computer before 11 was released. And I try to remember the last time my PC annoyed the shit out of me… yeah since I had windows.

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    Yes. Go buy a new computer.

    Then give me your old computer so I can put linux on it and distribute it for free to students and immigrants.

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      I like how almost everything we do now is in response to things going to shit.

      Lemmy - Reddit went to shit

      Linux (Desktop, anyway) - Windows went to shit

      Piracy - Distribution and pricing went to shit

      Jellyfin - Plex went to shit

      Emulation - Nintendo, mostly…

      Matrix - Just in case Signal tries anything… switchblade

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        Monopoly was originally the Landlord’s Game and was designed to teach children the dangers of unchecked monopolies and growth in the concentration of wealth.

        Software and by extension, software companies are subject to those same Iron Laws of Oligarchy.

        Given enough time, everything turns to shit, and it’s up to younger, healthy, energized people to fight back the power creep.

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    Having moved fully to Linux some months ago, I look at this kind of thing both with with a feeling of smug satisfaction and with cold chills of somebody who only now starts to fully realise just how massive, heavy and fast the incoming train they just dodged is.

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    “We and our 855 partners blah blah blah.”

    Odd that theverge decided to post this article. Not too stoked about 850 companies asking for my data in order to see an article about predatory business practices.

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      Even more irritating is when they give you the option to opt out, but you have to select every company individually. So you either give up on the article or let them steal your life.

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    Some group who hates Microsoft should just start doing their own unofficial security updates for 10 and slowly turn it into a Linux distro

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    I bet they’re gonna have to do what car dealerships do… Yeah bring your old iPad for trade in!.. Okay I don’t see my trade in discount though…it’s right there! Look in the small font, it’s $5.56 we compared against Kelly’s cousin’s purple book of laptops.

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    People can’t afford groceries and Microsoft is over here saying this. So out of touch with reality.

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      They are going to finally cause the “year of the Linux desktop” revolution we’ve all been waiting for.

      Unfortunately I think it will be sort of a monkey’s paw situation, where Linux gains a bunch of market share on the desktop because people will stop using their Windows desktops and just completely switch to using their phones and tablets if they haven’t already.

      Ah, who am I kidding, they’ll still get all those sweet business/enterprise sales.

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    Got that the other day on my gaming computer. Very irritating.

    Especially since I bought the computer in 2021 specifically to run the virtual cycling program Zwift. I’m not replacing it just to placate Microsoft. It’s more than powerful enough to run Zwift and will be for years. I’m hoping the options for using Zwift on Linux pan out.

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        Zwiftinsider isn’t run by Zwift - he just reports on them (though he definitely has inside information, and they work with him on various things, like letting him use “bots” to test various functionalities).

        That is pretty old. I think there are several approaches now. The one he lists, one using docker (I actually had it running on my desktop Linux machine, but I didn’t actually test it), and I think some people got it working under WINE.

        Zwift’s saving grace is that you can connect most hardware via your phone - trainer, cadence, heart rate monitor, etc. - because it’s designed to also run on things like Apple TVs, iPads, and Android phones and tablets, albeit with probably lower graphics settings. So, you don’t need to worry about the hardware end of it (ANT+ dongle), which very much simplifies the issue. Which reminds me, my heart rate monitor is ANT+ only, and I’d need a bluetooth-capable one to do this.

        (Also, at worst, I could run it on my tablet and hook that up to a monitor, so even if I can’t get it running on Linux, I still have options.)

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    I still can’t believe that so many PCs are getting cut off from software updates. Its going to be a huge security issue. There will suddenly be millions of unsecured computers being actively used. I can imagine that this will be allowed to happen.

    I think Microsoft is doing this because they want to make the ultimate spy network with copilot or what ever they are calling it now. I really need to figure out how to get a single work app to work on Linux reliably. I use it for like 99% of my work, so a virtual machine is kind of useless. I honestly think I will need to wait for a native version of the app to be developed and who knows if that will happen.

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      MS: I want to make Windows 11 require motherboard features that make ransomware attacks more difficult so I can say it’s more secure, even though it’s merely a feature of the motherboard.

      Also MS: Sadly, if your tech doesn’t have these features you cannot upgrade and it will be insecure because I will not make updates for it.

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        Are you talking about TPM 2? Because I don’t think that makes classic ransomware more difficult. Also it doesn’t have to be strictly a motherboard feature, e.g mine comes without a fixed hardware TPM, but my processor supports fTPM, which has up- and downsides. But it works as a TPM.

        Also MS: Sadly, if your tech doesn’t have these features you cannot upgrade and it will be insecure because I will not make updates for it.

        Technically, this isn’t true, MS will continue to update Windows 10 and even individual users can receive these officially through the Windows 10 ESU program: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/extended-security-updates

        Not that I’m in favor of what they’re doing, I think they should rather support older hardware with Win 11 and require modern features only on modern systems. But from a security standpoint, their decision is actually good, as it builds a secure foundation. Most private users will just do whatever on that foundation (e.g. run random stuff from the Internet), but I think going forward, this is the right choice, though probably for the wrong reason of doing Intel a favor.

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      I really need to figure out how to get a single work app to work on Linux reliably

      what work app?

      I use it for like 99% of my work, so a virtual machine is kind of useless

      i mean, it depends on your computer (like if your cpu & motherboard supports virtualization) but you can in theory get a VM with pretty decent performance

      on my m1 macbook i have a windows VM that runs very smoothly and i can effortlessly use a gesture on the touchpad to switch between them. it’s pretty cool

      on linux it’s a little harder to set up (i had to pay like $100 for the software on the mac) but it’s doable

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    Ah their planned obsolescence lead to botnets that fuck every largo company… so that Microsoft gets looked at.

    But the American way is to blame hundreds of thousands… or even millions of individuals.

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    Why in the world did Sun make such business decisions that it killed itself?

    FFS, instead of open sourcing this and that, and banking on high-end servers, they could have at least tried at desktops.

    If anybody remembers what Sun’s perception was in 2003, they could have been selling desktop machines for Apple prices and nobody would bat an eye.

    If Sun were still alive, this wouldn’t happen. I think.

    EDIT:

    LOL, I’ve just stumbled upon another Bill Joy’s interview where he too says that Sun should have gone the consumer way as a priority.

    Just imagine having a Solaris PC in year 2024, that is, now. ZFS with snapshots, Zones, and as easy to maintain as OpenBSD while insanely functional. Probably SPARC hardware without Intel bullshit.

    And I like to think that Java applets would still be a thing, instead of HTML5 and stuff, with security problems solved and a more elegant Web.

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    That kinda did the trick for me since my old PC was starting to struggle with some tasks, so I went and built a new PC recently.

    Joke’s on Microsoft though, I installed Arch Linux on it instead. It’s so much less work to maintain compared to Windows these days.

    A relative of mine had also got fed up with the Windows BS and was interested in what I was running, so I got her machine dual booted with Debian now to try it out. She hasn’t looked back either, so that to me proves that Linux is ready for non-techies.

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      My GF is not technical and had an old, old laptop that barely ran, so I gave her an Ubuntu USB drive and helped her boot from it, but she did the install all on her own. She even fixed a printer driver issue by doing some research and installing an updated driver.

      But that just goes to show that Linux isn’t exactly hard if you know how to read.

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            I agree, that’s my point

            Well half of it, the other half being that there is some magic “technicalness” to reading a wizard. If you aren’t doing weird partitioning shit on Linux it’s literally like enter your username, password, time zone, and wifi information. It’s not fucking hard.

            Now if you find me a Linux distro that supports out of box tpm + secureboot + dual boot without requiring Cthulhu-style arcane rituals…sign me up.

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          My actual point is that most people are idiots who can’t read instructions. I’m not insulting women, I’m insulting everyone.

          I’ll remember to simply omit her gender in the future.