Summary
Donald Trump announced plans to reform U.S. elections, including mandating paper ballots, same-day voting, voter ID, and proof of citizenship, while eliminating mail-in voting.
Trump criticized California’s ban on requiring voter ID, calling for a nationwide overhaul. Though mail-in and early voting surged during the pandemic, Trump has long opposed these methods, claiming fraud, despite evidence showing fraud rates are extremely low.
Critics argue his proposals could disproportionately affect rural, disabled, and nonwhite voters, potentially disenfranchising key Democratic-leaning groups.
The reforms would mark significant shifts in U.S. election policies.
cuts out 80% of the elderly vote in one swift motion
cuts out unprepared idiots who don’t know any better before they leave their house
There goes his voters.
Eliminate the Electoral College. None of this other crap.
Paper ballots are good
Who doesn’t have paper ballots? The states that use a touch screen (e.g. Dominion) still has paper ballots. You just make your choices on the screen and print the ballot. You check that everything is accurate and insert the paper ballot in the counting machine.
Most local polling places around me have touch screens you put a small card into, but you never see a paper ballot, I’ve honestly never seen a paper ballot for presidential elections in person other than mail ins
We have the same screens with a card. Here you print out the paper ballot and put it in the counter. Never seen them without a paper ballot.
We just hand it to a poll worker and they do whatever they do with it
Ok, well, just change it to whatever we have here then. It’s not a big deal and not everything is a conspiracy.
Too bad for him the constitution clearly states “the states shall decide” - which is why we have the hodgepodge patchwork bullshit we have now. So he may want to change it, but unless he actually does light the Constitution on fire, this is unlikely to go anywhere.
omm… the Republicans have the supreme court and are in the process of lighting the constitution on fire as we speak?
The constitution doesn’t protect the people from the government. The constitution protects a government from the people.
When the government lights the constitution on fire, “We The People” are no longer restrained by its restrictions. We are free to establish a new constitution, with blackjack and hookers, and burn down the government established by the old, flaming constitution.
Lmao good luck with that constitutional amendment, Donnie.
This half-baked nonsense is dead at conception because once again Republicans prove they don’t understand government.
It’s a shame that, despite not understanding government, they’re about to have unfettered control of it.
The saving grace is that our federal government relies HEAVILY on state workers and agencies.
A lot of states can simply say no, or “yeah, we’ll get around to it.”
This is why he wants to do that.
Thanks for putting that plain text from the top of the post into a jpeg down in the comments.
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic, but I couldn’t copy the plain text on jerboa, so I had to screen shot.
On Jerboa: Tap the three vertical dots menu in the original post, Copy > Copy post text.
Thank you!
When he declared Nov would be the last election, and winning it meant they wouldn’t have to worry about elections again, he meant it!
He’s doing exactly what he said he would do.
Yup. When a fascist tells you they are a fascist, believe them.
Yeah, but something something genocide, so voting is bad actually
Shaming people for having deep moral quandries about voting for a candidate who is actively and directly facilitating genocide is pathetic and pointless and makes you look like a parody of yourself.
Aren’t rural people more republican leaning?
Often times yes, but they are in gerrymandered districts with adequate polling locations, plus they love to go out and vote for “their guy”
Aren’t rural people more republican leaning?
In some places only slightly. Like 55/45. So it would still affect Democrats.
Edit: I mention this because a lot of folks tend to assume rural areas are almost exclusively Republican and that’s very far from the truth even in super red states.
When rural voters overwhelmingly voted for you, making it harder for them to vote seems like a great way to shoot yourself in the foot.
they can also add rules to restrict the number of polling places, resulting in disproportionately long lines in cities where democrats live
This is it folks. If he is able to transform our election system with his own two hands, we’ve had our last fair election, I guarantee it. Fraud will be baked in, circumventing any design elements that are ostensibly there to guard against it.
This is the scariest thing I’ve read since the election.
I’m expecting a third term now with 110% of the vote. NK style.
Nah, we are about to have elections like the US used to in the 1900s, filled with political shenanigans. Its bad, but like… that has been how elections have always been run.
Not exactly russia or north korea, but like half way there.
Edit: Basically, instead of 51% of the vote, you need 55% or maybe even more, because some of the votes will get thrown out for made up reasons. Slightly marked off center of the bubble, invalid. Didn’t fill the bubble completely, invalid. And they only scrutinize votes for the opposition, and approve the votes for their candidates even if there are the same errors in the marking of the ballot.
Like that scene at the end of The Dictator, when he finally holds election.
There are two vote boxes and all the citizens are queuing in front of the box that will vote for his opposition. A tank drives up next to that queue, and everyone leaves the opposition queue, rushing over to join the queue to vote for the dictator.
They weren’t quiet about this being the last fair election we would have. I’m also not convinced it was actually a fair election.
But whatever…too late to bitch about the fascists now.
The writing has not even been on the wall here, it’s been part of the plan all along, he’s been saying it all along and it’s obvious after he tried to violently steal it last time.
We’re in a situation where our only hope I they are too incompetent to pull off the democracy destroying evil they are promising.
Well, to be fair, elections have always been biased with shit like this.
We never really had a 10/10 fair election, there has always been biases in favor of status quo / regressivism. It always took more than 51% of votes for the less regressive party to win. We’re just regressing back to stupid election shenanigans like those 2000 florida ballots designed to confuse everyone. Shenanigans that had always existed, but we evolved out of, but now we are going through a period of regression, as the country has done many many times before.
And you’ll have to wait 10 hours to vote on a workday because they’ve limited voting locations to one every million people - like they already do in Georgia.
lmao, democracy tm
If he really wants to standardize voting at the national level, I think this might actually backfire on the GOP in the long run. Mail-in voting and early voting is extremely popular across the political spectrum, while lazy ignorant old people, the life blood of the GOP for over fifty years, often don’t carry ID or even know where theirs is.
Shutting down polling stations in democratic areas has been part of the disenfranchisement strategy to-date. I’m sure this policy is one step of a few to try and permanently take power…
'“f I win, you’ll never have to vote again!”
-shitler
while lazy ignorant old people
Ignorant, yes, by definition. But voter turnout among registered Republicans has historically been pretty high - often higher than Democrats. There’s a few breakdowns of this but I found this older analysis quite interesting: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/
And there’s evidence that higher turnout benefited Republicans this year: https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-voter-turnout-republicans-trump-harris-7ef18c115c8e1e76210820e0146bc3a5
“mandating paper ballots… while eliminating mail-in voting.”
Does he not know mail in ballots are paper ballots? 🤔
The point is to eliminate voting options, the “justifications” are made up. Anything that moves closer to “not being able to vote” is the goal.
Paper ballots are also easier to falsify, with all the videos of box stuffing in corrupt countries.
That said, Canada uses paper ballots and hand counting, and I’m not aware of any accusations of election fraud related to that ever happening.
We also have a non-partisal federal elections agency. With individual US states in charge of running their own federal elections, there’s more room for Republican state-level government to cheat on the federal election
Jesus fuck. If this asshole gets rid of mail-in voting in Colorado…our voting system here is FANTASTIC.
The qons ruin every thing. They plan on making everyone miserable and breaking everything.
Goodbye democracy. We barely knew thee …
Yeah, clearly opening the door to discuss further changes to the election process. It’s dying, and he doesn’t want more people voting, he wants less, if at all
Real “stop testing” energy here.
If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any
“If we just stop voting, we’d have very few votes against me”
I thought Putin’s Sock Puppet and his neo-Nazi supporters want to increase state rights. Getting rid of the Electoral College should be the first step.
Not those states rights.
In elections where there needs to be a single winner so proportional representation does not work, how about this (already works in several EU countries):
Round 1: Anyone can participate if they have enough signatures. If anyone gets the majority vote, they automatically win and there is no round 2.
Round 2, 1 or 2 weeks later: Top 2 candidates from Round 1. No votes are carried over. Popular vote wins.
RCV doesn’t need 2 rounds for this. Neither does approval voting.
This is not a problem with voting that needs new ideas to address.
But… it’s the states that run elections, not the federal government. This doesn’t make any sense.
Don’t worry, I’m sure all the small government conservatives will stop this!
scotus would have to literally rewrite the constitution for the feds to have that much control over states’ elections.
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I’ve forgotten what ratio of the house and Senate need to approve amendments. I’m sure they haven’t tho, and will pack them both with the number they need.
2/3 then 3/4 of states must ratify
Yeah that’s only when it’s Democrats trying to change things.
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Um, states run elections, federal laws can regulate them. That has always been the case.
Southern states used to require the federal governments permission to change their states election laws. That was actually good that federal governments can somewhat regulate state elections, so southern states cant make racist election laws. Then supreme court stuck down that part of the Voting Right Act. southern states then immediately passed Voter ID laws to restrict minority voting.
Now the funny thing is, because now that the federal government is under a republican trifecta, they are now gonna do a uno reverse and regulate blue states like we used to regulate southern states.
“We’re gonna do things that have been really needed for a long time,” he said. “And we are gonna look at elections. We want to have paper ballots, one day voting, voter ID, and proof of citizenship.”
This should come with a national day off for voting, and mandatory voting requirement.
and voting location mandates per capita.
Just the federal holiday would be enough. If someone is too lazy to vote when given a paid day off to do so, then I don’t trust they are informed enough to vote anyhow.
