One side is far more powerful and commiting genocide, the other is poor and simply trying to survive. Currently it is not complex at all.
My initial position after those first attacks from Hamas were Isreal has the right to defend itself, but what has happened since then is so far beyond the scope of what is acceptable, it is horrible.
but what has happened since then is so far beyond the scope of what is acceptable
It just shows how deeply embedded HAMAS was in the Gaza strip. That should shock your mind equally as much as the destruction the IDF is wreaking on the place. You have to look at both sides, and also consider these matters through the lens of long history, since approximately 1948. How many hospitals or other infrastructure could have been built with the money and concrete and manpower used to build those tunnels? Things that could have improved the lives of ordinary Gazans. Resources withheld from the citizens by their ruling politicians.
In the mid 1940’s a lot of German civilians died in allied bombing raids. Even Germans who weren’t Nazis and may not have even voted for Hitler. But there was a collective punishment (justly) visited upon all of the Germans in the 1940’s for bad political decisions they collectively made in the 1930’s. One of the major bad decisions was voting Hitler in. Right or wrong, that is just how international politics works sometimes. The situation in Gaza is not dissimilar. Gazans are paying now for many many mistakes made in the political domain, for decades stretching back 80+ years. Bad political decisions. These are impersonal forces at work. Holding up portraits of individual victims is meaningless at this scale.
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Oh please. Acting like Israel hasn’t been killing Palestinians for decades. Imagine how Palestine could look now if Israel hadn’t been subjugating and oppressing them for the last 60+ years.
Both sides have been killing each other for decades. Palestinians killing Israelis, Israelis killing Palestinians. Neither side has clean hands in any of this.
Yep. Gaza is not a complex issue. It is overwhelmingly simple. Genocide is a black-and-white issue with zero wiggle room. It is unquestionably evil. Israel has been committing genocide for decades.
The intention of the Zionist movement was to displace Arabs in Palestine since the very beginning. (Ze’ev Jabotinsky, The Iron Wall, 1923.)
My first thought when he said that.
Kids dying isn’t complex bro. Like isn’t he fuckin Irish?
Nah Ed you’re just thick
The most complex political issue on the planet remains how to handle climate change.
Hey Ed, you are talented but you are a horrible human being. Fuck you from the bottom of my heart.
Its patently ridiculous how hard people twist themselves into knots to try to avoid saying anything remotely negative about Israels fucking genocide.
Much like the Irish- people love U2, but don’t really give a fuck about Irish independence or the IRA. Just shut up and keep pumping out great albums, and movies like “The Commitments”. Give the public dark Guiness in stout glasses and good Belfast (or better yet Dublin!) brogue but keep your weird incomprehensible meh, couldn’t care less mess of Irish history & politics. Smartest thing the Irish ever did was make what peace they could back in the 90’s. Pali’s would be smart to do the same. Nobody really cares about them. Their Arab neighbor’s feelings range from indifference to outright hostility (google “black september 1970”) The issue as well as the people themselves have become a black spot on the region’s prospects for peace and prosperity and have been since 1948- particularly for Arabs. Somebody needs to sit them down and have a little talk about the actual political realities and facts on the ground. Even if they were given their own state tomorrow, the Palestinian territories are a non-viable state. No industry, no economy. They will only survive as a beggar nation utterly dependent on international aid. A giant Arab indian reservation in the middle east. It’s a sad situation but it’s been 80+ years in the making. Bombed buildings can be rebuilt. Pics of dead babies are mere propaganda at this point, any deaths mere statistics. All of it meaningless. Only when a peace agreement is reached will any of it have any meaning inside the context of history. Until Pali’s are ready to take that step, things will continue on as they have. Never losing, but also not winning either. Just more and more meaningless deaths, forgotten and to no real purpose.
Hey Ed, I heard Kid Rock has some free time in his schedule, maybe he’d open for you.
If anyone calls Gaza a political issues they are already taking a stance. Genocide isn’t political.
By conceding that the reaction to October 7 was “disproportionate”, he seemed genuinely upset. Only he didn’t say how many dead kids he would consider proportionate.
I viscerally hated that word when he said it but didn’t know why until I read this article
The appropriate response to Israel’s current actions is and should be simple.
The decisions as to where the Israelis should live once extreme appropriations have been rendered to Palestinians however, is not very simple.
There are still 6 million Israelis and while it would be satisfying to do to them what they have been doing to Gaza, I don’t believe in my heart that doing so would be the best we are capable of or be seen as the correct response by future generations. Some of those 6 million people (not a lot, maybe like 30% from what I understand) are actually good people who were just born onto stolen land under an authoritarian government, and they genuinely have nowhere else to go at this current moment.
I think a two state solution with neither one getting the most desired places and those places instead being rendered to a U.N./International body to oversee equal, fair, and open use is be the best interim answer my uneducated ass can currently imagine.
If someone has a better answer not rooted in frustration and revenge, please lift me up. Tell it.
Here’s a better answer: one state, all living in the country have equal rights. Palestinians are given reparations and right to return to their stolen lands. Israelis that directly participated in or orchestrated the genocide must face trial for crimes against humanity just like the Nazis did.
I’m all for if you can’t share, then no one can have it. I’m all for a no state solution.
You see, mass murder for imperialistic interests is a very nuanced issue and requires multiple viewpoints. There’s definitely pros and cons to it, depending on which team you’re on.
STFU and go back to making boring, gutless adult contemporary music for soccer moms.
This story has been an over heated nothing-burger from the start. Who the fuck cares what Ed Sheeran thinks?
WHO THE FUCK LISTENS TO ED SHEERAN?!?!
I only know about him because of this mess.
Ed is taking a lot of hits lately. He may not be saying the right things but if you deal with any bank or insurance company, your money is probably being invested in companies (S&P500 companies) involved in the middle east directly or indirectly, intentionally or not. Taking action also means watching how your money and savings are being used.
