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    Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court affirmed the lower Commonwealth Court decision in a one-page order, saying it agreed with Schmidt’s office that West failed to file the required affidavits for 14 of West’s 19 presidential electors by the Aug. 1 deadline.

    These third parties are so bad at filing paperwork it amazes me that anyone thinks they could lead a country…

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    This guy is not serious, and should be ignored. He’s only on the ballot in 15 states. Among other flaws, like taking money from Harlan Crow.

    By August, the campaign reported being $17,000 in debt. The campaign was aided by Republican-aligned groups, donors, and lawyers, to get on the ballot in several states including Michigan,[56] Georgia,[57] Virginia, Nebraska, Maine, North Carolina,[58] Arizona[59] and Wisconsin.[59][60] Although West stopped actively campaigning, registered Republicans have signed up to be electors for West in swing states.[11] His campaign had only spent $2,400 on signature gathering between January and June of 2024.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornel_West_2024_presidential_campaign

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      If Republican big wigs are showering you with money to do something, save your soul and don’t fucking do it.

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      I mean you’re gonna find a lot more plutocratic ghouls on Harris’ donor list then his.

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          Probably cause he thinks he’ll spoil the Democrats campaign. Probably doesn’t like his politics since if he ever did get in his policies would liquidate people like crow. West did return the money though

          Meanwhile Harris’ donors are just as sus and are expecting something for their money. Whether that be AIPAC and getting her to continue the genocide or health insurance companies getting her to flip on Medicare for all. You don’t see her returning or rejecting any money from them.

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      I definitely don’t take him serious and I won’t be voting for him.

      EDIT: Downvotes for me NOT voting for him? So you guys want me to vote for him?! lmao

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    The kremlins not gonna be happy about this, hopefully Stien is enough of a spoiler on her own but i think they aimed to take votes from different demographics and with west trailing stien has been trying to win over more uninformed black voters and getting clowned in the attempt.

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    We are left with the same two parties that declare “this time we are really going to help the people” and two armies of morons convinced their person is really going to do it! It is literally the same BS every election cycle.

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    As a west supporter I’m fine with this. Though I’m not fully convinced on the magnitude of the spoiler effect, eg. If 2% want to vote for west that doesn’t mean that those 2% vote for Kamala if he’s off the ballot, they’ll most likely just not vote. The race in Penn seems really tight though so anything to get Harris over the line is good.

    If you arent in a swing state ( eg. Margin bigger then 10%) and think Kamala’s tacking too far right then id recommend looking into west. He and stein get a lot of slander on here because people are deathly afraid of spoilers but his platform is actually pretty good if you want to do a protest vote. Again in a non-swing state so everyone doesn’t come after me for “helping trump”

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      Well said.

      Just so you know, they’ll still come after you because you’re not voting for Harris. People like to accuse us of being Trump voters just for not falling in line. Apparently, we’re part of some conspiracy to get Trump back in office by… supporting third parties on Lemmy of all places? Yeah, because Lemmy’s totally not hostile to third-party voters, right? Clearly, our “Russian agents being paid in Russian bitcoinz” plan is working flawlessly.

      But seriously, I thought I’d be into West at first too, but I never felt like he was genuine, even if I respect what he’s trying to do. I admire anyone who takes a shot at the Duopoly, even if they’re not getting my vote.

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    The way third parties are being shut out this election cycle really highlights how undemocratic the US actually is. Democrats are shutting out their spoilers, Republicans are shutting out their spoilers, you are not allowed to vote for anyone but the two ruling parties.

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      This is patently false. Why are you lying?

      No one should vote for these green or third party candidates because they are not serious or legitimate.

      They disappear after every election and do nothing for downballot candidates.theyre also paid by foreign actors.

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        No one should vote for these green or third party candidates because they are not serious or legitimate.

        In YOUR opinion. But I, and many others, do and will vote third party. No matter how mad you are.

        Having said that, I wouldn’t vote for West.

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        If they filed the paperwork properly and on time they wouldn’t be able to complain about being shut out… :)

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          This clearly wasn’t a problem before this year. The parties just did what they usually do, but now unknown rules that were never enforced before are suddenly a problem. Oh and the rules are different in every single state. They’d need to hire a legal team to get nationwide ballot access.

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        Tedious libshit - oh we’d love to have a democratic process, but you didn’t jump through all the procedural hoops in exactly the right way (rules we made up and were never voted on lol). Sure they rules are different in every single state and are selectively enforced, but rules are rules!

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            The rules are made up and the game doesn’t matter. Also the rules are hidden behind layers of procedural nonsense and you only find out you broke the rules after the fact.

            It shouldn’t require hiring a legal team to get ballot access. My only point is this isn’t a democratic process.

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              I don’t disagree that it’s not democratic and full of bullshit rules. But don’t complain you can’t win a shitty game if you don’t play by its rules.

              And if you want a different game you need to kick the table over.

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                Sure, but let’s remember what I actually said: what’s happening highlights the undemocratic nature of US elections.

                How we respond to that is important, but it doesn’t change my original point!

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                  There are far, far better examples of the undemocratic nature of US elections than having deadlines for filing paperwork.

                  And if a party can’t even get paperwork filed on time, how are they going to do anything more significant?

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              also, the democrats literally don’t have to jump through these hoops, so tehy can spend their time and money making sure others don’t get on the ballot.

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      Absolutely agree. Even me posting about third parties here has brought more hate and mockery than I’ve ever experienced, even on Reddit! People can be toxic. lol

      But all the backlash has only made me more determined to keep posting news about third parties!

      I believe in people having options and diversity in political opinions. :)

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        But all the backlash has only made me more determined

        Oh sure sure. That’s the reason. 🙄

        Thank God you’re here to make sure everyone remembers they can chuck their vote into a hole if they don’t care who wins.

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          Oh sure sure. That’s the reason. 🙄

          I don’t have to explain anything to you. Believe me or not. I don’t care.

          But I’ll keep posting. Thank you!

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            Of course you will because you’re most likely 1) a disinformation agent who is being paid to post these ridiculously stupid opinions, or 2) someone who is a “useful idiot” and genuinely believe that voting 3rd party is a complete waste of a vote when these 3rd parties do nothing for 4 years and only show up on election year to try and steal votes from Democrats.

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              a disinformation agent who is being paid to post these ridiculously stupid opinions

              I didn’t write the article. So what “ridiculously stupid opinions” are you talking about?

              when these 3rd parties do nothing for 4 years

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States (thanks to @SyntaxTerror@feddit.org for the info)

              State-Level Green Party Officials (Former)

              • Shane Robinson - Maryland, House, District 39 (2011-2019)
              • Henry Bear - Maine, House, District 144 (2013-2019)
              • Ralph Chapman - Maine, House, District 133 (2010-2019)
              • Fred Smith - Arkansas, House, District 50 (2011-2015)
              • Richard Carroll - Arkansas, House, District 39 (2009-2011)
              • John Eder - Maine, House, District 118 (2003-2007)
              • Matt Ahearn - New Jersey, General Assembly, District 38 (2002-2004)
              • Audie Bock - California, State Assembly, District 16 (1999-2000)

              Current Green Party Mayors

              • Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois (2021-2025)
              • Bruce Delgado - Marina, California (2008-2024)
              • Emmanuel Estrada - Baldwin Park, California (2020-2024)

              Former Green Party Mayors

              • John Reed - Fairfax, California
              • Mike Feinstein - Santa Monica, California
              • David Doonan - Greenwich, New York
              • Kelley Wearvering - Cordova, Alaska
              • Robb Davis - Davis, California
              • Peter Gleichman - Ward, Colorado
              • Jim Sullivan - Victory, New York
              • Jason West - New Paltz, New York

              Current Green Party City & County Council Members

              • Sylvia R. Chavez - Calipatria, California
              • David Conley - Douglas County, Wisconsin
              • Josiah Dean - Dufur, Oregon
              • Becky Elder - Manitou Springs, Colorado
              • Bob Gifford - Portage County, Wisconsin
              • Renée Goddard - Fairfax, California
              • David Grover - Trinidad, California
              • Damon Jespersen - Newbury, Massachusetts
              • John Keener - Pacifica, California
              • Rebecca Kemble - Madison, Wisconsin
              • Paul Pitino - Arcata, California
              • Marsha A. Rummel - Madison, Wisconsin
              • George P. Steeves - Southbridge, Massachusetts
              • Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
              • Daniel Welsh - Lewisboro, New York
              • Heidi Weigleitner - Dane County, Wisconsin
              • Stephen Zollman - Sebastopol, California

              Former Green Party City & County Council Members

              • Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois
              • George Altgelt - Laredo, Texas
              • Michael Beilstein - Corvallis, Oregon
              • Bruce Delgado - Marina, California
              • Jessica Bradshaw - Carbondale, Illinois
              • Michael Cornell - River Hill Village
              • Jennifer Dotson - Ithaca, New York
              • Kathleen Fitzpatrick - Mosier, Oregon
              • Gail Garrett - Mount Washington, Massachusetts
              • Matt Gonzalez - San Francisco, California
              • Cam Gordon - Minneapolis, Minnesota
              • Art Goodtimes - San Miguel County, Colorado
              • Daniel Hamburg - Mendocino County, California
              • Michelle Haynes - Norwood, Colorado
              • Gary Hull - Sharpsburg, Maryland
              • Tanya Ishikawa - Federal Heights, Colorado
              • Brian Kehoe - Catskill, New York
              • Jason Kirkpatrick - Arcata, California
              • Mary Jo Long - Afton, New York
              • Tom Mair - Grand Traverse County, Michigan
              • Sarah Marsh - Fayetteville, Arkansas
              • Merrily Mazza - Lafayette, Colorado
              • Gayle McLaughlin - Richmond, California
              • Ross Mirkarimi - San Francisco, California
              • Leland Pan - Dane County, Wisconsin
              • Dona Spring - Berkeley, California
              • Chuck Turner - Boston, Massachusetts

              Other Green Party Local Officials (Current)

              • Michael Clary - Coos County, Oregon
              • Jennifer Baker - Napa Valley College, California
              • Matthew Clark - San Mateo County
              • Billy Gene Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
              • Carl D’Amato - Waterford, Connecticut
              • Daphne Dixon - Fairfield, Connecticut
              • Matt Donahue - Benton County, Oregon
              • Maureen Doyle - Southbridge, Massachusetts
              • Andrew Frascarelli - Waterford, Connecticut
              • Frank Gatti - Amherst, Massachusetts
              • Michael Paul Hansen - Humboldt County, California
              • Jane Jarlsberg - San Bernardino County, California
              • Joshua Steele Kelly - Waterford, Connecticut
              • Vincent O’Connor - Amherst, Massachusetts
              • Sharron Parra - Hyampom, California
              • Vahe Peroomian - Glendale Community College, California
              • John Powell - Montecito, California
              • Colleen Ann Reidy - Thompsonville, Connecticut
              • Rebecca Rotzler - New Paltz, New York
              • Leif Smith - Redding, Connecticut
              • Darcy Van Ness - Waterford, Connecticut
              • Baird Welch-Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
              • Randy Marx - Fair Oaks Water District, Sacramento County, California
              • Fred McCann - Portland Water District, Portland, Maine
              • Garrett Erven - Red Wing, Minnesota

              Other Green Party Local Officials (Former)

              • John Amarilios - New Canaan, Connecticut
              • Korie Blyveis - Newberg Township, Michigan
              • Hector Lopez - New Canaan, Connecticut
              • Kim O’Connor - Hillsbor
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                What percentage do the names of the literal entirety of current elected green officials you listed, as granularity as local elections, represent of the total elected positions? Hint: in 1992 that total was about 520,000 people.

                Edit: lol didn’t even realize you included former appointments.

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                  My point was they don’t only run pres elections.

                  Friend, I’m not voting for her. But the green party does more than just run for president. Now if you wanna argue percentages, ok, cool. But they do run for offices, as I’ve shown you.

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            Didn’t ask you to explain anything. I wouldn’t believe your “explanation” if you gave one.

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              I wouldn’t believe your “explanation” if you gave one.

              So then what’s the point of accusations then? Because you’ve just admitted that you will believe what you wanna believe. So maybe you should let it go.

              Some things are true, whether you believe them or not. And I’ll keep posting any articles that I find interesting. Thank you! :)

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                I didn’t make accusations did I? Look, you’re welcome to block me of you don’t want to see my comments on the articles you post.

                Voting 3rd party in a US election = not getting a say in which of the actual candidates gets elected. I’ll keep reminding folks about that unless you’re trying to say certain viewpoints shouldn’t be freely expressed…

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                  You have a narrative you wanna push, all because I am not voting for you candidate.

                  I’m fine with you being against 3rd parties. You keep arguing against them, I’ll keep arguing for them. Unless you’re trying to say certain viewpoints shouldn’t be freely expressed.

                  I’ll keep posting. And you keep posting.

                  As long as the news reports on them, I’ll post them. :)

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        Yeah, the problem isn’t the articles you post, those are fine. Trying to misdirect onto that is a strawman. People don’t like you due to how you engage in comment sections with the people that want to talk about those articles.

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          Also someone posting this volume and this rate of similar posts is a bad smell.

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            Either they can’t work and have nothing better to do or this is what they get paid to do. I wonder…

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        Even if those options do nothing but help elect trump.

        Be honest. You’re really just trying to get trump elected not 3rd party candidates cuz u know 3rd party candidates can’t get to 270

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        Until our voting system is changed from First-to-the-Finish to Ranked Choice, it’s impossible for a third party to be a legitimate option.

        I would love to see a third party candidate be successful, but if these third parties can’t even complete their paperwork on time and take opposition party funding, they are not legitimate.