Europe will welcome them with open arms.
People starts to realize that having a higher wage in the US doesn’t translate into a better quality of life.
only the PI/PHDs, and postodcs, the ones that do “majority of the work” in a research lab, undergrads, and grads wont have the same opportunities in europe.
i dont believe anywhere is currently safe from fascism.
no, but it safer than if a authoritarian is control, like trump, Russia, and china. until those other countries in europe starts attacking science(defunding, jailing them, or alternative “science”) its better than the US.
A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, are incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.
They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.
Turning the US into Russia 2.0
America is still slightly ahead of Russia there, due to the legacy of the USSR. Not that Russia’s billionaires aren’t doing their best to privatize education and keep it out of reach of the peasantry since the fall of communism.
the oligarchs of russia sends thier children to elite or standard western colleges, russian is a shithole even for them for education.
Yeah, and a lot of the 56% college grad rate is boomers who were educated before the fall and are now dying off. We will see it drop precipitously in the next 20 years or so, and the quality of the education of the newly graduated decline.
As an outsider, I honestly and sincerely invite anyone to explain how any of what’s going on in the US today isn’t as American as apple pie and school shootings?
What’s the term when a country has a brain drain but caused by itself?
As non-american I’m becoming increasingly convinced republicans are actually lead by traitors wanting to destroy the US.
Since Trump is Putin’s puppet, that makes sense.
Yeah pretty much, Trump had ties to the Russian mob. Beyond that, they probably poured money into the MAGA movement for God knows how many senators. Putin won. Well played really.
putin have pouring into the gop for a long time, and almost all the right wing governments elsewhere, why do you think the sudden rise of right wing govt all at once, plus they also fund alt-right groups like racial supremcy groups. isreal is similar, just by the USA (which is the most right wing western country even before trump)
So is every racist government.
So do the Democrats…
I hope they fix their system, but I have no idea how they could.
They need more parties. The two party system is forever broken
Stupid people are easier to rule and fool.
The times, they are a’changing
Death to IMPERIALISM
Death to CAPITALISM
Death to FASCISM
Death to MAGA
This doesn’t really save money. It does however create a burning of the books effect.
The country built on brain drain, assumes it is great without the brain.
I hope the scientist find favorable places that value science.
remember germany, they wouldve develop thier own atomic weapons if wernt the persecution of the jewish and asian scientists. same thing happen in the cold war, persecution of"communism" caused some chinese scientist to flee, and resulted in the CCP gaining access to hydrogen bombs from fission bombs much quicker than any other country.
Making everywhere else, great again.
Brain drain is a difficult downward spiral to break out of once it starts.
This is something I think a lot of people don’t realize; It’s a cascading failure. It’s not just that some competent people will leave the country. The rest of their teams will have to bear the extra burden and be demoralized. They will then feel compelled to leave as well.
It’s happened numerous times in both the public and private sectors. Now they’re deliberately trying to do this shit on a national scale. If we ever recover from this, it’s going to take decades…
Critical support for Trump’s struggle against US cultural and scientific imperialism.
You jest, but even though I hate a lot about the Trump regime, I’m glad that it is eating out its own military capacity like this. It’s like when you’re incredibly sick in bed, and then it gets a little better for a while.
Never played a conquest game where you stop researchers from giving your empire a tech advantage over others.
Narrator: It did not.
It’s a popular strategy for Fascists.
the Nazis and the OG Fascists did it, and so did the communist Chinese.
China currently churns out more college graduates than any other country, and the rate is increasing.
And they had a hell of a way to go given that it was less than 1% when they took over.
Welcome to Europe, researchers!
Lots of great choices and don’t worry, you can move to France without knowing French or Denmark without knowing Danish!
I would Invite them to Germany, but our research policies suck massive balls, sooo: Go to France or Denmark!
wait you dont actually need to know French or Danish? How’s the local perception of English speaking foreigners, i.e. is it offensive to respond in English if the waiters/locals ask in French?
Tbh the language barrier is 1 of the reasons holding me back. Havent tried for positions in France and Denmark yet, but for the ones I looked in Germany and Spain, you need to know German or Spanish. Even the job ads are in German/Spanish…
If you’re in Denmark and speak English to anyone, nobody bats an eye. You’re welcome.
Denmark is home away from home. Love it there. It is my most stamped country. :)
This is a huge opportunity for countries who always played second fiddle in science and tech.
Whoops, I dropped these links here. Oh, clumsy days. Don’t mind me…
Not to kill the joke, but I was given these by a close friend who lives there now. These are all tailored to English speakers.
