And still some people think it will be fine in 3.5 years.
Oh my god it’s only been half a year D:
5 months, he was inaugurated January 20th
Fuuuuck this is depressing
It absolutely won’t be.
But it might be moving in the right direction.
Regardless, will take decades/generations to fully recover from this, if ever.
No, you’ll never recover. Your previous status was the result of a very specific set of historical circumstances (specifically the fact that you were the only major power left standing after World War 2) that aren’t going to repeat. If you fall, the best you can hope for in terms of recovery is to equal the other developed countries of the world. You’ll never exceed them again.
Unfortunately Americans cannot stand being told they don’t live in the greatest country on earth. It’s a wonder that fascism took this long to win in the US, because it’s fundamentally hyper-compatible with American Exceptionalism which every American besides a tiny fraction of far-leftists believe to be inherently and unshakably true.
Where do you go from there when most of your population wouldn’t accept a trade alliance that doesn’t massively favor the US? Because even if Trump is impeached tomorrow that’s what Fox News will be running all day every day to successfully torpedo anyone attempting to rebuild the country.
I believe the same. They will recover eventually, but they will never be a superpower again.
Which is fine. Really would love to not have a fall happen, but ultimately if the rest of the world can thrive and move forward even with our current idiocracy taking hold, I can live with that. All I hope for is that this will pass and we can rise up from it.
Especially given that even in the best case scenario the period of recovery will be 8 years maximum. No matter who will be the next president, the one after will be another angry conservative, and I don’t believe there will be a lot of progress after.
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
Or another way to look at it- cutting nearly 75% of scientists. Can’t have climate change if there’s no one working! Watch them find some money to give to ExxonMobile to ‘study’ the impacts of fossil fuels. Wonder what that report will say! /s
No need for the /s I fully expect that is what will happen. Also a great firewall, so yanks can’t access unapproved information from over seas
Never played a conquest game where you stop researchers from giving your empire a tech advantage over others.
Narrator: It did not.
It’s a popular strategy for Fascists.
the Nazis and the OG Fascists did it, and so did the communist Chinese.
China currently churns out more college graduates than any other country, and the rate is increasing.
And they had a hell of a way to go given that it was less than 1% when they took over.
China currently is not communist either.
They stopped killing academics at around the same time they stopped being communist.
Incredible, more than 100% wrongness
What makes you think that? Nazi Germany was very interested in science and engineering, at least in the disciplines that develop weapons.
They ousted all Jewish and all politically non-compliant scientists. They were interested in science, that’s true, and according to their world view, eliminating “inferior” scientist should have enhanced the quality of the science done by “superior pure blooded Aryan Übermenschen”.
While still being pro-science, they did cripple their scientific community on ideologic grounds. The communist regimes did the same.
MAGA being outright anti-science, the effect will be far more devastating.
at least in the disciplines that develop weapons
So interested they declared quantum physics an anti-Arian idea that should be exterminated and forced almost everybody with any knowledge that could help in making a nuclear weapon out of the country…
Has an empire ever been so complicit in their own demise?
Maybe Pol Pot murdering intellectuals and people who wear glasses?
But was Cambodia really an empire?
Yes. Just a couple of centuries earlier, so your point still stands.
Maybe theocracies like Afghanistan. Even North Korea likes scientists.
Probably all empires seed their own demise, I would guess
But so deliberately? In what world does a half intelligent person believe this to be a good long term strategy?
Most of the US believes in this, or is just unaware. That’s how its been for most of history around the world.
…The remarkable issue here is the elites/rules we handed the reigns now drink their own kool-aid. The very top of most authoritarian regimes are at least cognisant of some hypocrisy, even if ideology eats them some.
The other is that people are more ‘connected’ than ever, but to disinformation streams. I feel like a lot of the world (especially the US fancies) themselves as super smart on shit they know nothing about because of something they saw on Facebook or YouTube.
No, most of the US does not believe in this. This admin got less than half of the people who even voted in the election. Which is only like half the voting population anyway. You’re looking at less than a quarter who chose this, and many of those didn’t even understand what they were voting for.
It’s called a coup. The same thing our government orchestrated in other countries.
Maybe Cambodia and Khmer Rouge? But not many.
Yes, many times. Historically, it seems like the very strong empires first defeated themselves and once they were sufficiently weakened for outside forces to be able to threaten them … they still kept being self sabotaged by their own elite who prioritized maneuvering against each other for temporary power/wealth grabs over working together to face the outside threats.
The late Roman empire has a bunch of good examples: blatant corruption, over taxation of the poor, many assassinations, sabotaging their peers that were trying to improve the situation, constant civil war, the battle that destroyed the military backbone of the western Roman empire was fought between romans, … And all that while the empire was being torn apart by outside invasions.
Or a more recent example: the polish Lithuanian commonwealth had a paralyzed government thanks to corrupt elites with veto powers in their parliament of nobles (sejm) and only once the nation was mostly destroyed and the nation on the cusp of final destruction, did the sejm introduce some sensible new laws, but it was too late.
With smaller regional powers you can have cases like “they were in a golden age and had never been as powerful, but then the mongols appeared”, but with hegemon empires the failure of their inner workings is always going to be instrumental in their own demise.
That’s the price of ethereum lol
urethereum
How is the price of a cryptocoin even relevant to this post?
It’s his bloody piss.
Uhh…because….pee trickle down?
It’s a graph of the global status of the US, you can put in any value of your choice
Speed running towards Idiocracy by 2028
no need to rush it, were already here.
who am I kidding, President Camacho would be way better than Trump and most DNC candidates.
The lowest bar ever.
Actually, I will politely disagree.
The moment Camacho saw someone smart, he put him to work on the solution, he actually cared for the people, had no ego, delegated well…
It’s a standard that which practically no politicians in the US has.
if you are like that, the intelligence is irrelevant, a cabinet is only as smart as the expert they appoint.
ironically, Idiocracy painted better politicians than we have.
I enjoy that movie less and less, not because it’s a bad movie, but quite the opposite.
If you know exactly the level of education of your supporters and your enemies. It’s time to attack the level of your enemies.
Idiocracy with fascist characteristics.
At least all the people in Idiocracy were united and happy in their ignorant world.
And their leader listened to the smarter guy around. The most unrealistic part of the movie
Thanks to trump, we get to witness a country entering dark ages.
*Trump voters
That’s only the half of it. Look at the rest of the policies, look how they want to cut Medicare and food stamps and other safety net programs.
Make no mistake, this administration wants to see people die.
This is the end game the technocrats have been working towards, this is how they’re enacting their eugenics. They want poor people, disabled people, disadvantaged people, to die. They believe they are culling the weak members of the herd for the sake of the betterment of “their” kind (rich, white, “healthy”, etc).
These policies aren’t stupid or ineffective, they are cruel and insidious by design
The whole conspiracy theory of the new world order feels more real every year. Make everyone suffer so they have no choice but to submit to the oligarchs.
People are already having trouble finding jobs. Cutting food stamps and Medicaid feels like pieces of making people suffer in a bigger plan.
The suffering is just a side effect. Massive death is the goal, they just don’t want to have to get their hands dirty.
I still don’t understand their end goal. If everyone exept for them is poor and dying who are they going to sell their stuff to? What will they exploit the people for if they can sell nothing because only they can afford it? Are they banking on becomming the new china and sell everything to the rest of the world? Wouldn’t killing half of your population bite that plan in the ass as a fuck ton of manpower is gone? And if they want to use machines as a replacement wouldn’t removing all the smart people be extremely unhelpful?
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It is not hard to understand if you think that money is just a number, practically is just used to obtain power and influence, and they’re using it for that. Once everyone is a slave, what do you need to sell
I still don’t understand their end goal. If everyone exept for them is poor and dying who are they going to sell their stuff to?
I’m increasingly believing that they don’t actually care about anyone other then themselves.
Their only goals are self-serving greed.
And the methods they intend to use to serve that narrow goal are extremely short sighted and lacking any peripheral vision.
They goal is to get rich, they are mostly old, thinking I’m death in 10 years and fuck the next generations. If the country crashed, well then I can continue living in a Mansion in Dubai with an coctail in the hand. Plunder policy.
We’re moving towards an economy of low volume luxury good vs mass produced goods for the average person. Basically the floor will just keep rising until less and less people can afford things. The people who still can afford things will be getting nicer and more expensive stuff as time goes on.
It’s probable that they’re betting on technological innovation to bring about a post-scarcity economy where profit and capital are irrelevant. And relatively speaking, that could a good thing.
The issue is instead of taking a reasonable utilitarian approach, these people would rather lean on things like:
unmitigated greed
racism
a romanticization of historical imperialism
the social construct within the Western capitalist mindset to incessantly seek new frontiers of exploitation
and the insidious belief that other people don’t deserve to participate in such a society; either because of their beliefs or because of immutable characteristics that deem them unworthy or otherwise burdensome to the system.
IMO, the tragedy is that while the rich want to bet on consolidating enough capital to shoot themselves out into space, the statistical likelihood that they will find anything within reach that even remotely resembles the beauty and habitability of our planet is very low. Too bad they will kill all of us first before realizing that.
Something something, when we cut down the last tree and poison the last river…
Make no mistake, this administration wants to see people die.
They want to see people suffer before they die.
Hey Europe and Canada, anyone still looking for a scientist that just wants to do lab work? I prefer chemistry, but am happy with micro too. Just let me interpret data, please. I’m stuck somewhere where titrations are the most complex process.
German universities are always hiring. Always. And in my experience they need just about everyone
If you have an Irish grandparent you can get a passport. Lots of work here and Americans are welcome.
Otherwise work visas that turn into residency aren’t difficult to come by with sponsorship and it’s not the kind of sponsorship that makes you a slave.
How about a great grandparent. My grandma was born in NYC but great grandad came from Ireland into Ellis island.
Mmmm. I’m not sure tbh but I don’t think so. If your grandmother had an Irish passport though that might work. Worth checking if you’re considering it.
My sister lives in the UK a long time now and all her kids have an Irish passport. It’s actually a great passport to have for travel. EU is obviously wide open but most places accept it without much (or zero) effort.
In my faculty, there’s often vacants for lab technicians, if you want to give it a go
The pharma industry is currently booming in Denmark (Novo and others are expanding like crazy), so perhaps you could try and look into that
If you can get out, now’s the time.
If not, now’s the time to buy guns and ammo.
It was time for that like 25 years ago. Fuck… I just realized 9/11 was 24 years ago.
And honesty it might be time watch all these 1st world nations like they aren’t quite right.
Unironically… Where’s the best place to go if you can get out and only speak english?
You’ll get by just fine everywhere on english, but it’ll be hard to integrate and make local friends without learning the language
in research? English is enough in most countries I think, I have friends here (France) who just start learning french after 10 years living here 😅 they just didn’t need it before
If you’re willing to learn at any pace, and can do at least some “skilled work” as they call it, then just about everywhere. Usually you have 5 to 10 years to learn the language if you want to stay permanently. You can get by with English in most of europe.
Usually, if there is not a lot of jobs you can do speaking English, it means that the region isn’t exactly rich and/or accommodating anyway.Almost anywhere in Europe is the answer. My son did his masters in Denmark and never learned Danish. He lives in Germany now and speaks fuck all German.
Once in the Netherlands, after losing my glasses I asked an optician if he could speak English and he was thoroughly insulted.
Britain and Ireland are both native English.
As others said, you’ll get by with just speaking English - if you’re serious think of what would matter aside from language: a life in Italy will be very different than a life in German, not only the weather but also the work culture. Also think of which countries ‘match’ your education, being somewhere with loads of jobs in your expertise will make things a lot easier. I’d advise anyone able to move from US to Europe to take a leap of faith - if it doesn’t work out and the US has by then returned to normal you can just move back and if it doesn’t work out and america didn’t return to normal you’ll likely be happy at least you got out before it got real bad.
And share them with your friends. Learn from Lenin, learn from the Vietnamese, learn from Alpaca farms.
What’s the story of the Alpaca farms?
Thank you.
Maybe also learn how to build molotov cocktails, how to grow vegetables in your apartment, and stock some durable food.
I got out to,the UK, but England is full of wannabe Americans that couldn’t get into the US to live if they wanted to. But they’re intent on turning the UK into an American territory. These idiots are fully prepared to privatize the NHS and their infrastructure because their white buddies across the pond are somehow a great example of how to advance a country.
Lots of Ameriboos over here with no shame. They’d lick trump’s dirty ass if they could become the 51st state.
A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, are incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.
They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.
Turning the US into Russia 2.0
As an outsider, I honestly and sincerely invite anyone to explain how any of what’s going on in the US today isn’t as American as apple pie and school shootings?
America is still slightly ahead of Russia there, due to the legacy of the USSR. Not that Russia’s billionaires aren’t doing their best to privatize education and keep it out of reach of the peasantry since the fall of communism.
the oligarchs of russia sends thier children to elite or standard western colleges, russian is a shithole even for them for education.
Yeah, and a lot of the 56% college grad rate is boomers who were educated before the fall and are now dying off. We will see it drop precipitously in the next 20 years or so, and the quality of the education of the newly graduated decline.
Russia is actually significantly better to live in than America, and it is a total shithole.
Deeply unserious managers of empire continue to self-cannibalize their own productivity in an effort to go even more all-in on financial capital, all while the global south is doing its best to pivot towards more favorable relations with countries like China. When the US Empire runs out of countries to exploit, and financial capital ceases to be profitable, it will have no developed industrial base nor a strong scientifically trained worker base to pull itself back up. The US is cooked, this is just speedrunning the demise of the empire in a faster and harder fashion.
The good news is that the worse this gets, the more favorable the conditions for organizing become, and the more vulnerable to revolution the state becomes. We can legitimately take advantage of this, and gain mastery over capital, rather than the inverse. We can re-industrialize, become socialist, and begin the long and difficult but necessary path towards legitimate progress. It won’t be easy, but it will be doable.
Brain drain is a difficult downward spiral to break out of once it starts.
This is something I think a lot of people don’t realize; It’s a cascading failure. It’s not just that some competent people will leave the country. The rest of their teams will have to bear the extra burden and be demoralized. They will then feel compelled to leave as well.
It’s happened numerous times in both the public and private sectors. Now they’re deliberately trying to do this shit on a national scale. If we ever recover from this, it’s going to take decades…
As non-american I’m becoming increasingly convinced republicans are actually lead by traitors wanting to destroy the US.
Since Trump is Putin’s puppet, that makes sense.
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putin have pouring into the gop for a long time, and almost all the right wing governments elsewhere, why do you think the sudden rise of right wing govt all at once, plus they also fund alt-right groups like racial supremcy groups. isreal is similar, just by the USA (which is the most right wing western country even before trump)
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Putin said he would have preferred biden in charge as he is “more predictable”.
Because former head of KGB would definitely never lie in public…
If you want to continue to lie to yourself, I won’t stop you.
Yet, he will lose to Ukraine.
I dont think that’s it.
It’s an overwhelming case of “got mine”.
Like sanders said, being a GOP member just means staying in line.
The Handmaid’s Tale was a premptive documentary.
Wanting? No. But they see the impending collapse and rip the copper out of the walls.
Explain why you would intentionaly get rid of cost saving EV’s? Either they are a total cult, of actively trying to make America as miserable place to live as possible.
GOP’s decisions only make sense if they are in it for the sadistic thrill of torturing and killing millions.
I mean, they aren’t particularly smart and will make huge blunders. But they’re still smarter than those neoliberals who try to keep the empire running like a cartoon character in midair
So is every racist government.
So do the Democrats…
I hope they fix their system, but I have no idea how they could.
They need more parties. The two party system is forever broken
First past the post is also forever broken as it inevitably leads to a two-party system.
Critical support for Trump’s struggle against US cultural and scientific imperialism.
You jest, but even though I hate a lot about the Trump regime, I’m glad that it is eating out its own military capacity like this. It’s like when you’re incredibly sick in bed, and then it gets a little better for a while.
This is a huge opportunity for countries who always played second fiddle in science and tech.
