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Is it only available in the US App Store? I can imagine that some people who could make good use of it don’t have a US Apple ID.
The devs don’t really seem to have a clue about smartphone.
https://bsky.app/profile/grapheneos.org/post/3lt2prfb2vk2rGlad others have pointed this out. Their “reasons” for not supporting 70% of worldwide smartphones via Android seemed very suspect.
not defending the dev here, but iOS is the majority in the US, why would worldwide market share be relevant for a US app?
Lol, called it.
Incompetence and false bravado is all but guaranteed with development teams. Especially when it’s closed source, not audited, and has minimal room for feedback loops.
She said that there’s been a 500 percent increase against ICE agents who are just “trying to do their jobs and remove public safety threats from… communities.”
Exactly what the Nazis who ran extermination camps claimed.
It’s so blatant as if theyre using an instruction manual or something 🤔
someone on bsky did the match and found out that 700% increase is still only like 70 incidents (i forget who it was that posted it)
I loathe and despise using percentages like this.
500% sounds super scary, but is meaningless without providing the baseline. If there was only one instance before and now there’s 5 it isn’t a significant increase but 500% sure sounds scary.
Worse still it’s not even clear what is being discussed. It implied “violence” but that is a wide range from just pushing to serious shooting.
% can also be misleading when a scale is arbitrary. A temperature increase measured in Fahrenheit will be a rather different % when converted to Kelvin.
“Just following orders…”
Unjust, following orders
“He’s giving a message to criminals where our federal officers are,” Bondi said. “…we are looking at it, we are looking at him, and he better watch out, because that’s not a protected speech. That is threatening the lives of our law enforcement officers throughout this country.”’
Actually, I believe it is protected speech. There are apps that let people know where speed traps are. You mean it’s not constitutionally protected to say to someone “hey, did you see the cop down on the corner?” Ridiculous. Of course, what she means to say is that the constitution doesn’t matter and laws are made up now, and they’re just going to do whatever the fuck they want. They’re just not quuuuuite ready to go through the trouble of literally setting the constitution on fire yet.
We need a federated equivalent. Anything centralized can be stopped.
At the very least I hope it’s hosted by someone outside the US so it’s out of reach to the authorities.
For all we know the app might just be a honeypot itself
This is a genuine concern that we should recognize.
I’m about 99% confident it isn’t, but considering it is the kind of caution we should all be exercising these days.
- Is it open source? (No)
- Is it’s publishing and build pipeline open? (No)
- Can anyone audit it? (No)
- Does the author make unreliable claims of privacy? (Yes)
- Does the author detail how data privacy and security is implemented? (No)
It’s probably not a honeypot. But it’s also likely to be negligent enough in implementation that it might as well be.
How would we learn either way if it was or wasn’t?
When the feds come for you for using it
Federated application for a map with markers and notes?
It seems for me that this would be too narrow a purpose.
Maybe a general-purpose public notification map. With some functionality allowing to separate markers by their authors and by tags. Or it can be spammed with bogus markers. By tags - well, for it to be general-purpose. By authors - because moderation can’t be left to instance admins.
And, of course, I’m personally for separation of moderation, instance ownership, identities and hosting, but my own toy attempt showed me that the logic of checking the chain of privilege delegation is kinda PITA. That is, separating identities from instances is not that hard. And communities. What’s hard is the community owner delegating rights to other identities, and in general authorized actions. It’s a task of determining which privileges does an identity currently possess, and how does it affect its own actions on the community, and in which order should those be processed … Everything is harder than it seems. Sad.
So federation is fine LOL.
Why too narrow of a use case?
Imagine federation with text linked to other text, that’d be crazy, right?
Wait, it’s actually more complicated than that 🤔
But FR using existing federated protocols to build something like this is EXACTLY what the protocols are for. You don’t need to implement the federation yourself, you can use an existing network
Good. I hope they’re terrified. The same as their victims
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Your wife is going to be grabbed out of your home and thrown into an unmarked SUV and you will never see her again. And you’ll let it happen because you would rather be a slave to a regime than confront the fact that you’re wrong.
Have you not seen all the people whose legal latina wives have been abducted off the street, shoved into packed prisons and then shipped off to some random country?
Obvious troll is obvious
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I agree. ICE are complete cowards for hiding thier faces.
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Is there an android version?
There is not and it is due to privacy implications. You can read more on their site about it and ALSO, there are fake Android apps of this that they caution you to not install. As of now, there is no Android version and unlikely unless Android fixes the way notifications work to not have any account or privacy issues for such an app.
Incompetence is not a “privacy implication”. You think Apple servers are beyond reach of US warrants?
This is not true. https://bsky.app/profile/grapheneos.org/post/3lt2prfb2vk2r
Which part? Are you saying they have made an android version?
The link in the comment you’re replying to says which part is not true, but since you seem more willing to comment than to click a link and read, I’ll summarize:
The part about the Apple Push Notification service requiring less information that can identify an individual user than Google’s Firebase Cloud Messaging is not true. Both use a similar token system. Furthermore, it is possible to build android apps with notifications that do not use FCM.
they probably want to also make it as easy as possible for those who aren’t technologically savvy or whose native language isn’t english, though
Then don’t claim the reasoning is anonymity.
Maybe they want that, but the statement on their website is not wrong on a technicality because it’s oversimplified; it’s wrong because it asserts a privacy difference between the two operating systems that does not exist.
No, they are saying that Android and Apple both have a privacy issue on the same level.
It’s not on the same level. Android at least provides the option of using an alternative notification system, and also supports downloading apps from anywhere. Including places that don’t require an account.
Send & Receive alerts about ICE raids and activity in your area. Stop ICE Alerts Network works with technology already built into your phone without the need to download an app.
This is the way.
You’ve still got to connect to their servers and they can monitor who connects to what.
I wouldn’t trust it without a non-US based VPN. We should assume anything in the US is compromised by the fed, and that they are watching.
they can monitor who connects to what.
They can also not do that.
We should assume anything in the US is compromised by the fed
International VPNs are not immune from US subpoena.
Stop lice!
Expected this after recent news articles criticizing it for hurting ICE officers.
Clearly it’s just safety minded individuals acquiring it. This app helps keep communities safe from unmarked armored vehicles filled with masked criminal cop impersonators.
