A group of Florida Democratic state lawmakers was blocked from entering the Alligator Alcatraz immigrant detention facility in the Everglades Thursday, despite citing legal authority for an official legislative site visit.
Florida Democratic Party Chair Nikki Fried issued a statement following the incident, saying, “Lawmakers on the ground were just blocked from entering a state-funded detention site because of so-called ‘safety concerns.’ This is a taxpayer-funded facility, run by the State of Florida. Our elected officials have every legal right to walk through those gates.”
Fried added, “What are Ron DeSantis and his administration trying to hide? If it’s unsafe for lawmakers to visit, how is it safe for anyone inside?”
The SK soldiers’ hearts were not in it. They were given orders, but nobody was actually going to do anything to stop the Parliament from getting in, and everyone knew it.
MAGA thugs are absolutely willing to use violence against Democrat lawmakers. They already have.
Given your post history, I already know what your reply will be, but post it anyway.
Ice has shown extreme cowardice when power is equal between parties and showing up with an armed force could be effective.
Better than this performative bullshit.
Performative bullshit? Doing their jobs is performative?
How is this doing their job and what did they accomplish?
They are inspecting a thing in their jurisdiction.
How are they supposed to bring an armed contingent? The Constitution does not allow the legislature to control either military or law enforcement.
edit: oh, it’s you. I didn’t check the username before.
Well, get on with your revolution and stop being a keyboard warrior. You fake Leninist.
Oh yes wasting everybody’s time by demanding to be let in to do an inspection when they know they’re not going to be let in.
We’ve done this song and dance before. They’ll go to court and they’ll be let in for a token inspection.
As far as armed contingent not that the Democrats are going to do shit but private security is definitely a thing. So is armed private security.
At least I’m not spreading around dead ideas that don’t work that waste people’s time and and activism.
Edit: FYI depending on the frontend you use, you can add a user tag so that you can tag me as “fake Leninist” and save us both sometime
For instance I got you as “boot” probably for some defense of the United States that we argued about.
I’ve only read it a few times but can you show me where the US Constitution allows The Legislature to employ private security to forcefully enter a facility controlled by The Executive?
You’re talking about open revolt and that makes me think you’re a plant. Maybe you’re just a silly commie or maybe you’re actually a state actor. I’m leaning towards silly commie.
edit: well, I guess Article 1 allows Congress to create agencies and define their scope but traditionally law enforcement has been left to The Executive. So Congress would have to found, fund, and direct a separate agency from scratch. I don’t think that’s going to happen.
Can you show me in the Constitution where that is explicitly outlawed? Because I’ve read the entire Constitution and it says nothing about legislation hiring private security.
I didn’t say the Democrats should force their way in, I just said that they should bring armed private security and then make a scene.
I said nothing of open Revolt. You are adding implications to thing my comment.
Regardless it would be nice if the Democrats put a little more energy into things and stop with this performative bullshit like going to an ice facility they know they won’t be allowed in. Is it bullshit yeah but they should probably make a bigger fuss about it at the place like when Senator Padilla got arrested. Makes better headlines.
As far as being a state actor I would be a piss poor State actor.
So, bring guns but don’t use them?
Anything not in the US Constitution is not permitted. Can a Senator hire a bodyguard? Of course. Would it be illegal to order that bodyguard to attack an ICE agent? You bet.
Congress isn’t supposed to police the Executive, that’s the Court’s job. Well… So now the Legislature has to go do “performative bullshit” to bring these things to light.
That’s you, just a couple hours ago. Sure looks like you want a firefight.
At this point the constitution is just an excuse.
They say that, but MAGAs are cowards at their core. Let’s see if they will actually fire on elected officials who are simply doing their jobs. I doubt they will.
A dude in my state executed his neighbor because he thought his neighbor might vote for a Democrat. It wasn’t some aggravated argument, the neighbor was just out mowing his grass.
I absolutely believe the thugs who are going around kidnapping people would have no qualms with smashing a boot into a democrats face or straight up mag-dumping the second the person tries to force their way inside.
Time to mag-dump right back then, bring the NFAC with banana mags and full auto rifles.
You’ll get no argument from me about the proper response, however unless you’ve got 20-30 of your buddies with you, all of whom know how to handle themselves and their firearms, and work in coordination, you will just end up a dead “terrorist” covered by fox news
That’s what the NFAC buddies are there for.
I mean, to that equivalence, all bigots are cowards at their cores.
Then grab the guns and see if they fire. If they do, then civil war it is. Let these MAGA fucks fire the first shot and then the last will be fired when they’re lined up against the wall.
You can be the first one to grab and see what happens
If I was a US citizen, fucking gladly!
I’ll happily die for being the first one with the FUCKING BOLLOCKS to do something and go down in history. What about you? Do you have the stones or are you happy to wither away under a fascist banner to be forgotten?
Home of the brave? Nah land of the scared cowards, what a failed colony!
100%. A bunch of clowns who have been talking a big game for a century and are now quaking in their boots when it comes time to live up to their stated values.
Still, they did it unarmed. Your country has more guns than people. Those thugs just kidnap and take anyone they want. At least use your guns for self defence.