The family of a Canadian national who supported Donald Trump’s plans for mass deportations of immigrants say they are feeling betrayed after federal agents recently detained the woman in California while she interviewed for permanent US residency – and began working to expel her from the country.
It appears that they got what they voted for. If they voted Democrat then they can justifiably be pissed off but for everyone else, Trump said he was going in hard and that’s what he is doing.
(Not you, them)
The packet should be dumping out little faces lmao
Would it be ethical to call ICE on people whose spouse is an immigrant (legal or not) or even just brown skinned when they themselves voted for Donald? Could this lead to enough face eating they might actually revise their views?
There have been others in similar situations (Trump supporters whose spouses were
kidnapped“arrested” by ICE), and they still claimed to support him so I don’t think it’s going to help. These idiots are conditioned to be sycophants to bullies from early on in their childhood, and on some deeply subconscious level they’re just trying to guess what they have to do to please the head bully in their lives in order to have any chance of getting what they want for themselves.That’s why it’s so irrational - what passes for their “thinking processes” are actually those of a wildly panicking child just trying to come up with whatever they can that will help them escape the wrath of their tormentor. It’s all so ingrained since their youth that they’ve long since forgotten why they “think” the way they do. So they continue kissing Trump’s ass in the hopes it’ll molify him enough let them be.
No absolutely not wtf
The people getting ICE’d are also people who don’t deserve to go to concentration camps just because you don’t like them
Yeah, you’re right. Ends don’t justify means. Even if it put an end to ICE, it is at the price of human suffering I would be directly causing. That’s what’s been stopping me.
I had to ask though because everything is just so terrible, it’s hard to know what to do about anything with what minute amount of power I have to actually change anything.
Nah I think it’s fine to rat them out. I don’t get this idea that they can vote to hurt people en masse but it’s verboten to suggest they go through it themselves? And nothing is going to change these people except for being forced to empathize. They’re on the sidelines of a bloodsport cheering ICE on as they destroy lives. When they say this is what they voted for, they voted for the spectacle. They voted to hurt people. Ratting them out to ICE is the least they deserve.
In the meantime, there is a distinct possiblity that someone who had no say in the process and is not at fault for the current situation gets deported to a warzone or an extra-judicial torture prison. That is an unacceptable result.
Agree. What Trumpists are doing is disgusting. We have members of our populace rabidly cheering this stuff on. They love the cute propagandized “Alligator Alcatraz” to the point where I’m pretty sure they have merch with it on it. We’ll probably see Trump wearing one of those stupid fucking red trucker hats saying Alligator Alcatraz on it. Imagine Hitler doing a PR campaign for Auschwitz.
Wait, what if he did …
At least many of the Germans were unaware of what was going on. How tf did we get here?
Widespread racist hatred from white conservatives. That’s about it. That’s the primary force behind the MAGA movement. They’re racist in the extreme but would never admit to it because they’ve been given a convenient out…
“ILLEGAL”.
This also sounds reasonable. I’m torn.
Don’t be. People who are being deported can’t vote and have no right to control the vote of their spouse. It’s bad to draw ICE to them.
I mean, if it was the actual person that voted that way, and not only the spouse. A person should not suffer the decisions of their spouse if it leads to torture. If the immigrant can vote and they didn’t vote for it, they can’t be blamed. …assuming they can vote at all. Actually, that can’t happen, so no people shouldn’t rat.
Not ethical. The people being harmed are people who had no say in the process. The better option would be to sponsor the spouse, find a place they can stay safe from ICE, and get them clear from their captor.
Anyone who voted for trump a 3rd time is so far out of touch with reality that there is no coming back. It’s a cult, and it would take a lot of specialists to deprogram them all at this point.
Sounds like I need to study to become a deprogramming specialist.
No, you dont vote for Trump becase he’s the best person to run the country and take the nation foward by trying to unite it, you don’t ever vote for a Repiblocan if you’re an immigrant. You voted for him becase you’re stupid, gullible, bigoted or some combination, or you’re entitled and filthy rich.
If that is you, theb logic and critical thinking aren’t even part of your political thought process and that won’t change
“I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative” - John Stuart Mill
In 2024, toward the end of his presidency, Joe Biden’s administration granted her a permit allowing her to work legally in the US. She had also been navigating the process to obtain legal permanent US residency, colloquially referred to as a green card, for years.
Nonetheless, instead of supporting the candidate Biden endorsed to succeed him, then vice-president Kamala Harris, Olivera’s husband supported Trump in last November’s White House election. He told KGTV that Trump’s promises to deport criminals en masse – despite his own May 2024 conviction of felony falsification of business records – appealed to both Francisco and Cynthia. And, echoing other mixed immigration status families who have had members affected by Trump’s policies, the Oliveras did not believe she would be hurt by her lack of legal US residency.
They learned she would in fact be affected by her immigration status when she went for a green card interview in Chatsworth, California, on 13 June. She was detained there by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) agents, according to a change.org petition pleading for compassion on behalf of Cynthia.
Olivera has since been transferred to an Ice detention center in El Paso, Texas, to await being deported.
Speaking to KGTV over a video call from the El Paso facility, Olivera suggested her treatment was undeserved.
Good riddance.
Since she supported Trump too, yes. She’s lucky they’re going to deport her rather than keep her in the concentration camp.
On today’s episode of “Leopards ate my Face:”
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