The family of a Canadian national who supported Donald Trump’s plans for mass deportations of immigrants say they are feeling betrayed after federal agents recently detained the woman in California while she interviewed for permanent US residency – and began working to expel her from the country.
“We feel totally blindsided,” Cynthia Olivera’s husband – US citizen and self-identified Trump voter Francisco Olivera – told the California news station KGTV. “I want my vote back.”
Cynthia Olivera, a 45-year-old mother of three US-born children, thus joined a growing list of examples contradicting the Trump administration’s claims that the immigration crackdown it has spearheaded since the president’s return to the Oval Office in January has prioritized targeting dangerous criminals.
Well, Canadian, obviously a commie with the healthcare etc
Good memes in this thread that I’m saving for future use y’all, keep em coming.
imagine being a grown ass adult and being surprised by this
imagine also thinking you’re entitled to sympathy from anyone after voting for literally this
those people can go fuck themselves. i’m glad they’re suffering
surprised MAGAchu noises
Racist white people dont consider themselves immigrants, they use ex pat because they themselves use immigrant in a derogatory way
In 2024, toward the end of his presidency, Joe Biden’s administration granted her a permit allowing her to work legally in the US
But voted Trump and probably blames Biden for this
The hatred towards non whites really resonated with her. They were supposed to go after them not people like her.
Funny thing is the husband is Hispanic.
Fuck these people.
They should have listened to what all of us were telling them constantly.
Opa leopard style!
supported Donald Trump’s plans for mass deportations of immigrants
Just to be clear, they didn’t just support trump for “better economic policies” or “safety” or “freedom from the ‘radical left’”, but specifically supporting the mass deportations?
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Edit:
In 2024, toward the end of his presidency, Joe Biden’s administration granted her a permit allowing her to work legally in the US. She had also been navigating the process to obtain legal permanent US residency – colloquially referred to as a green card – for years.
Nonetheless, instead of supporting the candidate Biden endorsed to succeed him, then vice-president Kamala Harris, Olivera’s husband supported Trump in November’s White House election. He told KGTV that Trump’s promises to deport criminals en masse – despite his own May 2024 conviction of felony falsification of business records – appealed to both Francisco and Cynthia. And, echoing other mixed immigration status families who have had members affected by Trump’s policies, the Oliveras did not believe she would be hurt by her lack of legal US residency.
Plot hole, bad writing. Did D&D write this shit?
Seriously, when I arrived in the US, the moment I was old enough to learn about politics, I was immediately supportative to the Democrats, not because I like them per se, but its out of self-perservation. Didn’t even think too hard about it. Doesn’t really take too much brain cells to know that supporting the party that’s more anti-immigrant, while yourself is an immigrant is a very stupid idea. I can’t believe these people exist. I feel like I’m in a simulation and this is just the creators of this reality trolling me.
It’s just that they list be so racist that they dont think all the bad shit will come for them.
Could really use that poemv, first they came for.
Blindsided lol.
Tater tots and prayers.
Votes should be revokable, I’ve always liked the idea of liquid democracy.
That’s a step in the right direction, but ultimately, the best solution would be an imperative mandate. I have no idea how we’ve let ourselves get gaslit that free mandates (once someone is elected they can do what they want, regardless of voter intention) is somehow more democratic than imperative mandates.
Arguably, Trump IS following an imperative mandate. This is what his voters want. This is what he promised them
Haven’t seen this posted in a while. I forgot you can delegate your vote to different people for different issues. How is the “category” of an issue decided though?
Wouldn’t that be up to the delagator? Wouldn’t they just decide case by case?
Then the delegator has to vote/delegate on every issue-- they don’t need expertise themselves like in a direct democracy, but it is still an issue due to sheer vote volume.
Yeah pretty much. You trust your guy until you change your mind or feel that you need to change your vote. Not really seeing a problem with that.
I don’t think you’re understanding my point. If, as you said, you have to assign a delegate “case by case” for every vote, then you have to vote in every vote. This comes with all the problems of getting people to vote on things now, but 100x as bad because of how many votes there would be.
I have an issue with this.
An abuseive family member could coerce you to delegate your vote to them.
With secret ballots you can’t find out how someone voted.
But with this “delegation”, even if you have secret ballots, they’ll say “If I don’t get X number of delegated votes, something bad happens”. They don’t need to know who you delegated to, they just need to know that the number of delegated votes they themselves receives in a tally is equal to the number of people there is in the household.
Hmm, you’re right, that is definitely a problem. The best solutions I can think of would be-
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Voter coercion laws. If nothing else make it at least illegal to do exactly that, so abusers can be held accountable.
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Maybe limit who can receive delegations in some way. Like making the status of being a delegate carry responsibilities, requiring a small curriculum and civil service so that only people who genuinely care about being representatives pursue that path rather than any average asshole who might coerce their peers and family into giving them more personal voting power.
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I love this idea, but the main obstacle this has to overcome is the voter’s knowledge of the issues and any given candidate stances on them. If we implemented this in the US, I feel like most people would still simply delegate all their votes to one candidate or all candidates of a particular party. It’s a lot of information for a working person to keep track of. Any idea on how to overcome this with paper ballots? Or are computerized ballots with all relevant information embedded within the way to go?
Even if most people just delegate their votes in an uninformed way, a liquid democracy would be more resilient to issues coming from that because people can change their votes after casting them.
I’m not sure what kinds of solutions other people have come up with, but personally what I think could be practical is an institution either like a bank, or possibly even incorporated into banks. They already have mature infrastructure for the secure handling of financial data and systems against fraud.
dumb fucks.
what did they actually think would happen? the shit he said he was going to do was going to be directed at everyone but them because they were “special”?
Yes, because they are special… Only brown, dirty, poor people would get kicked out or dissapeared. They are ok with that. They have money so evidently it would not affect them.
