CMV: This is the gun grab.

Step 1: Create State Militas run by federal deputies

Step 2: revisit Heller, etc. and stress well run milita part.

Step 3: confiscate all non milita weapons.

Step 4: burn Constitution?

  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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    Well… It’s not the first time the National Guard gunned down protesters. No one was ever held responsible for Kent State murders, and Kent State was not the only college that saw National Guard violence. 60 years ago, and in that time, no laws were changed to prevent it from happening again.

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          The national guard of the 1600s was organized around fighting american indians to assist with the colonization of North America.

          The modern national guard wasn’t formed until the Dick Act of 1903, after which they were almost immediately used to suppress labor strikes. You can look into the Colorado Labor Wars or the Ludlow Massacre for some contemporary examples.

        • you jest, but the defense of capital is a major reason for militarization of civil society - police in the US were originally slave catchers and private guards for the wealthy

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    Its almost like he wants the California National guard to repeatedly shove their bayonets up his ass and string him upside down from a telephone pole in the streets of DC.

    Please, proceed…

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    This guy has the worldview and the emotional maturity of a toddler. After this whole thing has passed, there MUST be guardrails put in place against this kind of individual

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      This whole thing isn’t going to pass. Trump/Hegseth are only external expressions of the fundamental rot at the heart of America’s social, political and economic systems. America is in terminal decline and putting guardrails around the presidency is too little, too late

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        Yes, when I said “has passed”, I mean “when the people of the United States have vanquished this specific version of fascism”. I wasn’t suggesting that it was going to pass on its own.

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      We had a chance. Biden’s administration should have been solely focused on preventing the return and acceleration of fascism. Instead, they cowed to their corporate masters and threw crumbs to the people.

      As others have said, we’ve likely had our last free election as the United States of America. Whatever follows should absolutely have guardrails against this happening again.

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        And heaven forbid they actually prosecute the guy who tried a violent coup against the government. At least Hitler served time in prison fir his failed coup

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        Do you think there’s nothing else to be done simply because elections are over? That just means we need to do something else.

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          I have a belief of what will be required, likely aligned to your something else. I just don’t think it is a good idea to broadcast it on the Internet.

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      This is likely the end of the road my friend, there is no “when this has passed”.

      That is why there is no reason not to fight with everything you have now.

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        I don’t have a say in what happens in the US, I am fighting locally on our own issues here in Mayotte. I wasn’t trying to say fascism would “pass”, that was a poor choice of words. Let’s reword it to “when Trumpism is dead”.

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            Not at all, don’t be it’s alright. Much strength to you as well in facing these dark times.

            I walked around lake Dziani once, it’s covered in pale green algae such that the surface looks solid. It is a strange sight. There’s a few folk tales about it too (ghosts, spirits… I don’t remember the specifics)

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    British did exactly this when perpetrating the Boston massacre prior to the Revolution.

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    Ok then. This sounds exactly like the stuff all you Second Amendment aficionados have been warning about my entire life. I assume that you’re all prepping, and gearing up to take out these federal goons when they show up in your town. Right? I mean, if this isn’t it, then you’ve just been cosplaying that ‘don’t tread on me’ bravado this whole time. Time to put up.

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      They’ll never think about it like that. Even though Ruby Ridge happened under Bush 41, the Weavers are all insane about Democrats. Even though most of them would suggest 9/11 was an Inside Job to pass the Patriot Act, under Bush 43, it was all Obama to blame for anything bad. Even though Trump banned bump stocks, it’s the Dems that love gun control (which they rarely ever actually pass). Even though James Brady was Reagan’s press secretary, the Brady Bill passed under Clinton right after Waco happened and the ATF made taking guns a national obsession with those people.

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      Motherfucker the second amendment doesn’t only apply to “aficionados”, but all citizens. Where were you when they banned the most effective guns with which to resist tyranny?

      So that means you’re stepping up too, right? You didn’t just ask me to go die alone for you because you couldn’t be bothered and maybe don’t like guns to begin with, right? You realize that there’s a difference between one guy with a gun and forty guys with guns, RIGHT?

      Google Cliven Bundy or MFAC for admittedly unfavorable but effective examples of this, and then feel free to fuck off after that.

      Or were you talking to the more numerous MAGA gun nuts who can’t wait to goose step over and kiss some boots and who obviously won’t be lifting a finger to stop any of this?

      I hate your shitty, smug, and typical response because this shit is serious and you’re a fucking joke.

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        doing everything you can to combat the unhinged, gun-toting, lunatic stereotype, huh?

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        Bro chill. They were talking direct to all the people who scream that they need guns after the latest school shooting prompts people to talk about gun control. All the people who have guns “for self defense” because they believe that stealing a TV deserves the death penalty. All the people who claim that guns are important to stand up to tyranny while they vote for conservatives time after time.

        You’re taking this to such a personal level and we’re [probably] not even talking about you.

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        The bundys were trying to pasture cattle whithout paying for it. Is that the tyranny they were fighting?

        The only joke here is the defense of the bundys.

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        So what’s the most effective fun? And what century are you in if you think having guns is going to be much help when they just call in a drone strike.

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        Google Cliven Bundy or MFAC for admittedly unfavorable but effective examples of this, and then feel free to fuck off after that.

        That was before drones.

        You should be learning from Hamas if you actually want to stand a chance in the modern world.

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    I have a great idea for a name, too. They can call them Guard Emplacements Suppressing Tyranny And Protecting Order.

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    Sorry for the lecture but…

    This is the important shit. Please don’t get distracted. They are preparing for the next elections. They won’t go willingly.

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      Trump is the most dangerous criminal in the states. If he really wanted to clean up crime, he’d turn himself in.

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      They’ve been trying to spin literally any protests or even just token resistance as criminal, and rural voters, by and large, absolutely believe that cities are hives of crime and iniquity.

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        It’s not just that: I have a brother who’s not even that conservative but seems to sincerely believe the Gaza protests on college campuses are terrorism and Trump is justified in cutting medical research associated with those colleges

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        It’s not just rural voters. I was just at a dentist apt in suburban Washington and the hygienist was talking about how her son just moved away from California and that she was glad he was getting away because of “how bad the crime has gotten in California”.

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          Sounds like my province where everyone is home Shillong there kids cause they think the teachers are making them gay or trans.

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        I expect sooner or later, there will be a big massacre where protestors are shot down. Surprised it hasn’t happened yet

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      Then he proceeds to get hammered and accidentally add a dick pic on the official zoom slideshow presentation

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    There are 109,000 cities & town in the US. You are going to create a second ‘police’ department run by the Federal government (just like Russia has). That is a huge financial undertaking.

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      That is a huge financial undertaking.

      Congress gave ICE $75 billion over four years, approximately $18.7 billion each year because daddy Trump demanded it. Added to the $10 billion Congress already appropriated ICE for fiscal year 2025 in March, ICE now has $28.7 billion at its disposal this year. ICE alone now has more budgeted than the entire Department of Justice.

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        That’s not how the Russian police works. They will be a Federal police department at the mercy of the orange illiterate dictator’s orders/whims.

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      They can afford it. After all there are only two entries on the Republican federal budget: 1. grifting money. 2. money to the paramilitary to foment and subsequently suppress dissent.

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    Step 4: burn Constitution?

    Nah, they’ll keep it as a holy book to swear on, while doing the opposite of what’s written in it.