cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/35684522
Despite his support for Trump, Ragland has become increasingly vocal about the need for immediate trade resolution. “We desperately need to get something rectified quickly with China, our biggest export customer,” he told CNN. “We wanna encourage the administration to get a proactive trade deal done.”
the only version of reality they know is on fox news, newsmax, the joe rogan experience, and am radio.
this war has been coming. they’ve even known its coming. but they understand it to be solely at the feet of the chinese state manipulating the markets. they think, because it’s the only perspective they’ve ever been exposed to, 47 to be a big strong power daddy standing up to those bullies.
it has never occurred to them that the great imperial powers, russia, china, the anglosphere, are engaged in a centuries long stalemate. one that benefits no one but the people at the top. their big power daddy is not their savior, but their antichrist. their pharaoh, caesar, king, and overseer. he hates them and will make them suffer.
and i hate everyone in this thread thinking laughing at them is the play here. they turn to their churches because their churches promise to help them and accept them. i’m sick of this performative leftist bullshit. things don’t get better by shaming the morons, they get better by feeding them and showing them another way. through galvanizing them against all our opressors. yeah, some are so twisted with hate you can never help them, but by not even trying to bring them to our way of seeing things you’re repeating all of the same mistakes that created a malicious and uninformed public in germany that cranked out adolf eichmanns.
don’t be like israelis blaming this genocide on an evil race of tormentors. be like hannah arendt blaming it on a system of manipulation of what right and wrong even is
Laughing at them is the only play. They will not listen to us no matter what. They deserve this, and while it sucks for the rest of us too, we might as well enjoy their suffering since they puposfully did this to us. The US is on a path to crash and burn, and the faster it does so, the sooner we can maybe start building something good again.
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/16301276
How do you square these two things?
Please explain
In the above post you state it’s OK to laugh because the farmers purposefully elected Trump, leading to a (predictable) trade war and suffering.
In the linked post you explain that Palestinians in Gaza mostly support the attacks on Israel.
Should the starvation and attacks the Palestinians suffer then be ridiculed because “they deserve it”?
Fair point. In this case, the adults who voted for Trump may go bankrupt, but they nor their families will starve, ironically because of the social programs they are also likely opposed to. In Gaza, even the adults have less access to education that might give them a chance of critical thinking, and the children are dying. That’s not funny in any way. So I suppose it’s a matter of degrees, but it’s such a different degree that it’s hard for me to see it as similar.
Web activism does nothing and if people here aren’t laughing at them the algorithms will still find the one guy who is and present that person to right wingers.
Whatever you think you’re accomplishing by advocating self censorship, you are naively assuming the right wing media won’t fabricate these narratives whole cloth.
The “school kitty litter” stuff peddled by Rogan is a perfect example of “however nice you are to the right, they will be shown whatever upsets them the most (even if its completely fake) and you will be blamed for it.”
You’re performing a song and dance for people who aren’t in this thread. If the goal was to join them at being laughing stocks, you succeeded.
I have no intention to accept people that refuses to accept me.
That they go low we go high attitude does not work.
I say let them reap what they sow.
There’s a vast difference between mocking people in an echo chamber and doing it directly to their faces. You’re right that mocking someone never changed their mind, but as far as I’ve read the only thing that moves the needle, especially for people in a cult, is a close personal connection helping them. Internet comments are never going to change anything, so I say mock the poor dumbasses voting to shoot themselves in the foot (at best), or unempathetic racist shitheads (more likely), because it makes my day a little better at least.