Microsoft’s AI CEO, Mustafa Suleyman, has shared his opinion after recent pushback from users online that are becoming frustrated with Copilot and AI on Windows. In a post on X, Suleyman says he’s mind blown by the fact that people are unimpressed with the ability to talk fluently with an AI computer.
His post comes after Windows president Pavan Davuluri was recently met with major backlash from users online for posting about Windows evolving into an agentic OS. His post was so negatively received that he was forced to turn off replies, though Davuluri did later respond to reassure customers that the company was aware of the feedback.
I don’t want to talk fluently with a computer, I want it to do things deterministically in a way I as a human being cannot. If I want a discussion, I have it with a human being.
Call me old fashoined, but i like my computers to do exactly what I yell them to do.
Business Idiots. Ed Zitron wrote a whole thing about how many business leaders are out of touch with users and their own products. They live in their own little pocket dimension with each other, and only really care about shareholders.
You know what would impress me? That I would be able to start using my computer when I boot it in the morning.
As it stands I have to wait some 5 to 10 minutes before the mouse pointer decides to cooperate with me. And god forbid I attempt to start a Teams meeting, either the camera, mic or screen share will not work at all.
What the hell is this dumbass operating system doing that is more important than responding to the damn user?
Same machine, booting Linux, lets me start working right away. No stuttering, no freezes. Go figure.
10 minutes??? Did Linux just won by literally doing its own thing?
It’s sad that all of those things were solved problems 20 years ago.
Like, Skype was usable on pretty much any computer with a webcam in 2006. Computers booted in a couple minutes with their spinning disk drives.
The tech is faster, more reliable, higher resolution, etc, but the software is fucking ass.
Yup, and Linux probably boots faster. On my NVMe w/ full-disk encryption (not through the disk’s microcontroller, through an outside FS), I boot to desktop in like 5 sec or less, and the desktop is fully usable. If I want to launch a program, I type the name and hit enter, and it launches in a couple seconds.
My M3 Mac is a little worse, since it gets confused about launching an app vs looking for a file, and it takes a bit longer to boot (20-30 seconds?).
But my SO’s Windows machine is something else. It takes a minute or two to boot, and after that it takes a minute or two to “settle.” I have no idea what it’s doing, but I generally get up and get a drink or something when my SO asks me to get something pulled up. Why is it so crappy?
xxx@xxx:~$ systemd-analyze Startup finished in 1.514s (kernel) + 3.331s (userspace) = 4.846s graphical.target reached after 3.328s in userspace.My machine is instantly usable in <5 seconds.
I completely trust Systemd to accurately report on itself, the same as I trust American cops to police themselves.
Back when I used a HDD in my laptop, I was able to get my boot down to 20s or so. I don’t understand what MS is doing…
Yup, and Linux probably boots faster.
Someone once wrote something that compiled the Linux kernel on bootup with TinyC. Even this would be faster.
5 to 10 minutes before the mouse pointer decides to cooperate with mr
This is not a typical experience, you have some kind of hardware issue or corruption / incongruities in your OS deployment.
Is this “git gud”, victim blaming, or a mix of both? Ignoring the comma splice.
You’d think if there was a janky bit of gear in there
- Windows would tell you about it
- Linux would suck the same.
Neither appear to be the case.
I literally don’t turn my computer off because even with an SSD windows takes so long to boot up properly. I still have to restart it every few days because memory management is shit.
I literally don’t turn my computer off because even with an SSD windows takes so long to boot up properly.
I admin several hundred Windows PCs so I’m pretty confident in saying that your computer is either a moldy potato, something is wrong with your hardware, or you have a very unusual software load. A modern Windows 10/11 desktop should go from power off to logon screen in < 30 seconds and from logon to desktop in < 30 seconds. Even an 8th Gen Core i5 with 8GB of RAM, a SATA SSD, and a full stack of security software will be ready to use in 60 seconds or less.
Whatever your problem is it ain’t “windows”…and I’m typing this comment from my home PC running Linux.
AI bros are beyond delusional.
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I couldnt give a flying fuck what this clown thinks. My brand new Beelink EQ14 came with Win11. Its now running Ubuntu server
“I have a radical business strategy: Fuck our customers, and fuck what they want. It’s going to be great. They’ll love it. Or else.”
I’d be impressed if they stopped basing everything they build on other people’s tech.
Never seen someone with a mind so easily blown.
As has been said elsewhere about everything Microsoft is pulling:
If your LLM was worth using you wouldn’t need to force anyone to use it.
Microsoft is truly the king of putting out a product that no one wanted or asked for, then wondering why no one wants it. I’m sure they will soon begin the second phase of any Microsoft product: spending a small country’s GDP marketing it to try to get people to use it, despite it being prominently displayed on approximately 5 billion operating systems already.
A tried and true strategy to piss through more money than god to justify spending more money than god building the thing that no one wants. Looking at you, IE and edge.
spending a small country’s GDP marketing
Not to mention the energy demand of a similar small country
You know what I want MS to do? Remove all the extra crap and just be a simple OS. The desktop should use 500MB or so of memory, boot should be a few seconds, and launching programs should be a few seconds. Don’t do any weird caching nonsense, I don’t need tens of GBs of OS nonsense, just give me a simple OS.
I have that w/ Linux. The only value Windows provides is app compatibility. Stop trying to be anything more than that.
Man, can you imagine how good a bare bones version of win 10 would be? Drop all the useless software and telemetry services, only run the 3 or 4 background services that people use, and use flat window decorations like win 8. Essentially a modernized windows XP. Would be rad.
There’s multiple projects out there for it. Windows 10 Ameliorated is/was an open source project of PowerShell scripts you run against the installation media (and I think afer install, it’s been a while) to get LTSC Windows 10 stripped down as much as possible.
It’s what I run in a VM for my work’s VPN connection software (and then for the RDP session too). Keeps an extra level of separation from my personal stuff.
I could probably get things working in a Linux VM, but it’s not worth the trouble for me.
Yes, very true. It would be so nice to be able to get that as an OOBE behavior rather than a hacked together set of registry hacks and patched executables. Not denigrating the devs of these projects, they do an amazing job out engineering Microsoft’s attempts to stop them. It’s just absurd that the primary/only option for the operating system of a set of devices as ubiquitous as personal computers is such advertisment riddled shit with no ability to even buy out of it.
Don’t forget cortana!
What about that 365 bullshit?
How could I when I’ve been being notified it’s existence for the better part of the last decade?
Forget what?
In a scale of 1-10 how likely are you having conversations about AI with copilot to your colleagues ?
10, about how I hate it and wish it would go away.
Lay off the coke man, talking to a computer isnt impressive when the average persons hydro bill goes up each month to support your bullshit
If he thinks the reaction was people not being impressed then it shows that CEOs are psychopaths who can’t relate to normal people.
Shluld get fired for not knowing your customers at that level.
Well my guy have you actually used and I mean really sat down and used your burning pile of slop for an excuse of an OS? I bet you haven‘t because you don‘t have to. Your assistants have to deal with that and they get paid to not complain about it. Meanwhile you get paid to waste oxygen and have lost touch with reality to the point you‘re no longer able to contribute to society in your current position. How sad.
I think part of the problem is they all use Win 11 Enterprise, which actually isn’t that crappy because all of the bloat can be configured and disabled and most likely their IT department has done that.
They should be forced to use Win 11 Home for a while to see how everyone else is viewing things.
Holy fuck. I have to paste shit from reports into Outlook daily and that stupid fucking menu that pops up asking about if I want the formatting to match, that you can’t get rid of, drives me crazy.
And! And! You want a sync button? It’s not just hanging out anymore, you have to find it. Don’t like more clicks? That’s ok, use the F key. But not F5 like is standard on browsers! Enjoy pressing F9.
First world problems but they’re mine!
I’ll bet I can make your left eye twitch.
Are you ready?
A “large” amount of information.
Bitch, my computer has 128 gigabytes of RAM. It’s a tiny god. The fact that I have as many as 100 cells copied to the clipboard (which is the threshold that triggers this stupid message, if you’ve ever wondered) is not even a rounding error. I’m sure this was marginally important in 1982 or whenever this was first coded into Excel, but today my computer could lose an entire megabyte of memory or maybe even ten down between the couch cushions and neither of us would notice.
There is still no setting to disable this dumbshit message.
OMG yes… I wrote a macro that copies thousands of rows and then closes a file and I had to add a step to copy just one cell before closing to work around this stupid message.
Hey don’t make fun of him too much, he might have to buy another yacht to make himself feel better.
